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baturinsky

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Kind of funny how easy it is for Melee/Unarmed users to grab their "god tier" weapons and be done of the game so quickly: just go East. Seriously, not shitting you, just go East. If you've found that super mutant camp of the settlement with a unique missile launcher wielding-super mutant, you can find the super sledge there. Harder to find than unarmed, but much faster. For Unarmed, just travel to Salem, and do the Devil's Due quest, and grab your gauntlet. Kind of derpy to be this fast, but eh.

Arguably, killing Swan for power fist is easier and weapon itself is better than Devil's Due route.

Getting Grognak's axe is way easier than getting something from missile-flinging mutants. Just ghouls to kill and you don't even have to kill final Glowing one.

But I like Rockville Slugger even more and it can be simply bought in Diamond City market.

So, yes, endgame melee/unarmed weapons are way more accessible than ranged weapons.
 

ArchAngel

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Sentries, Swan and Behemoths can't enter buildings due to their size, ASSaultrons on the other hand come in and drag you out by your hair. While calmly talking to you. Scary shit. I approve.

That's why I want a KLEO companion mod. Probably not only me, Beth should consider a KLEO DLC. But don't forget to have her talk about carrying my burdens.

Beth already missed the kickass pun with NotGarrus at the quarry. When he goes of to work on the pump, does he say is he is making calibrashuns? NOPE. Try again Todd.
I fought that guy with PA and Minigun. Wasn't easy but easier than Sentry.
 

Bliblablubb

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"Swatters! Swatterswatterswatter!"
"Outstanding."
Still nothing GOTY worthy.

"Best" ranged weapon early on is the ovenseer's something you can buy for 3,5k at Vault forgethenumber. It's a .308 semi auto combat rifle shooting a magical second one without using ammo. Since ammo and grape mentats are plenty, it's definitely an early endgame weapon in my book. Getting the gauss rifle from Ronnie takes a little more effort and ammo isn't that common.
 

ArchAngel

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"Swatters! Swatterswatterswatter!"
"Outstanding."
Still nothing GOTY worthy.

"Best" ranged weapon early on is the ovenseer's something you can buy for 3,5k at Vault forgethenumber. It's a .308 semi auto combat rifle shooting a magical second one without using ammo. Since ammo and grape mentats are plenty, it's definitely an early endgame weapon in my book. Getting the gauss rifle from Ronnie takes a little more effort and ammo isn't that common.
I found a legendary shotgun that does additional energy weapon. Kills anything in few shots, pretty endgame if you ask me :D
 

potatojohn

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So, yes, endgame melee/unarmed weapons are way more accessible than ranged weapons.
For rifles, you can buy Overseer's Guardian for 3000 caps in Vault 81, which is all you'll ever need.

Anyway Fallout games are all trivial once you know where stuff is.
 
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Divinity: Original Sin Torment: Tides of Numenera Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath
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Looks like Sawyer is among of those who support news!
 

potatojohn

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Overseer's Guardian needs end-game upgrades to be end-game.
Not really. All it needs is a semi-auto receiver. Without any crafting mods you can make one that gives 120 dmg per shot.

But upgrades are easy to find anyway. Shops start selling .308 combat rifles around level 30 IIRC. You can take the receiver off them and put it on your gun.
 

typical user

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The "arrow to the knee" meme was certainly annoying, but it gave Skyrimjob extra advertising and popularity.
Skyrimjob had the arrow.
FO3 had... dunno, steel be with you? ThreeDawg?
FNV had patroling the mojave.
FO4 has... nothing. Hate newspaper was a dud.

Kind of surprising that the marketing department didn't realize how important that is these days.

Fo3 has GAAAAAAAARYYYYYYY
FNV has this stupid NCR line and "Ave True to Casear"
Fo4 has Ad victoriam* so far and stupid shit with "It just works" Todd's slogan

*it must have a typo, every BoS fan must write it victorium, victorian or other eye-plucking error because they can't into Latin
 

Lhynn

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Stop being retarded, its not about there being an unlimited amount of options, its about there being more than the single path they want you to take. At the very least the most obvious ones should be there.
But reading these threads it seems that it is. Like the guy above complaining that he couldn't give a unique power armor piece to the brotherhood to study. Or the guy a bit back complaining about not being able to reprogram and send protectrons to settlements.

Not to mention idental points can be made for New Vegas - why can't I give the remnants armor to the BoS? Why can't I send friendly protectrons to Goodsprints to protect it against raiders?

Somehow this lack of options makes F4 a terrible game, apparently, but nobody noticed that NV does the same things but it's still 8th best RPG of all time.
Some codexers are nitpicky, that is not an argument in favor of fallouts 4 extremely unintuitive narrative nature. Nothing makes sense in your shit game, its a nonsensical mess that any human being that has an ounce of common sense can clearly see.

It's not clever because both the premise - why do ghouls want to fly there in a rocket, wouldn't it be more convenient to just walk
No, it wouldnt, those are ghouls, theyd get picked off rather easily.

and the technical writing - you pierce the human's self-perception delusion with just two very pedestrian speech checks despite being told that the brights had tried and failed before are bad.
What? You do realize the irony of YOU being the one to criticize this, dont you? the dude deluded himself into thinking he was one of them, simply because of wishful thinking, he felt he didnt belong in the human world. People will tell themselves the most retarded things to keep themselves from seeing the truth, you are a prime example of this.

That's not even going into the realism of the thing. I mean the Apollo mission burned like 5 tons of rocket fuel per second. And you just get 10 rocket toys and they're off.
Its obviously not regular real life fuel, it made shit shine. It takes place in fallout world, were technology is extremely advanced. For fucks sake you have stealth boys.

How is this any better than a dog following a scent? If anything it's magnitudes worse.
Nope, not really. Also following a dog is banal and pedestrian, how the fuck is it better?

We're talking "so you fight the good fight with your voice" bad here. Somehow nobody's noticed this though. Must be the Obsidian reality distortion field.
Nope, as i said, the quest is clever, you are braindead.
 
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It's strange that Fallout 4 has inter-faction connections and reactivity, but mostly just with the various bandit groups. Go to one and find notes grumbling about how so-and-so did this or took over this. One group took a bandit leader's sister hostage to get shipments of food, and you can look through incident reports on both sides of the conflict. They begin to notice that you're wandering around taking down their main rivals and plan to move on the territory after you've wandered off. Wait...does that mean whoever is doing this might come after them next? We need more guns! *And* some of them have connections to more notable characters in the story, but you'll have to dig for it.
 

Bliblablubb

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I found a legendary shotgun that does additional energy weapon. Kills anything in few shots, pretty endgame if you ask me :D
Found an ASSplosive combat shotty in a mudcrab. So OP (the assplosion is per pellet) I never used it (just carried it around, because you know, maybe some time you will need it?)

Overseer's Guardian needs end-game upgrades to be end-game.
Ah right, the Ovenseer's Guardian doth not come with the .308 receiver. I got that one from the ugly ghoul kidnapper. But nonetheless, the extra ~50% (rumor has it perk boni are not applied to the second bullet) dakka makes it a must-have.
Sadly even legendary Tommyguns still suck donkyballs, while the plasma infused 10mm brings me to infinity and beyond, with the power of funny green puddles.

It's strange that Fallout 4 has inter-faction connections and reactivity, but mostly just with the various bandit groups.
Red Tourette (from the food depot), Tower Tim (brewery) and the dude from the Corvega factory (who also knows you junkie grandma) are connected and make notes if one or more of the others are wiped out on their computer. I remember reading about some other named Twix as well on mayor Kessler's computer (Bunker Hill), but I haven't found them or gotten a quest for it (IIRC there is one).
The named ones under Walden Pond even have voiced dialog about the corvega incident. Well, at least about one of them, since my clumsyness interrupted their happy chatting. I remember reading somewhere that people also comment about the quarry being populated by Twix now, but I always wipe them out before something can happen. I like my neighborhood orderly.
Sadly Red Tourette is just named after her turrets. I had hoped for her sister just to be... her as well. Serves me right to expect deep storytelling from Bethesda.
 
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potatojohn

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No, it wouldnt, those are ghouls, theyd get picked off rather easily.
Uh what? You know there are ghouls in New Vegas walking around without a problem?

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Fallout:_New_Vegas_ghoul_characters

Anyway, put on a hooded robe, et voila, nobody knows you're a ghoul.

What? You do realize the irony of YOU being the one to criticize this, dont you? the dude deluded himself into thinking he was one of them, simply because of wishful thinking, he felt he didnt belong in the human world. People will tell themselves the most retarded things to keep themselves from seeing the truth, you are a prime example of this.
No, it really doesn't make sense that you'd be able to just convince him that he's human like that. Deluded brains simply don't work on reason like that. That's why they're deluded.

Its obviously not regular real life fuel, it made shit shine. It takes place in fallout world, were technology is extremely advanced. For fucks sake you have stealth boys.
The only thing that determines rocket efficiency is exhaust velocity, and that is limited by material science. There's really no indication that the fallout universe has anything like that.

Nope, as i said, the quest is clever, you are braindead.
How is it clever? Please explain it to me. It's entirely straightforward. Ghouls want to use the rockets, you help them, and off they go. There's nothing clever there at all.

In fact there are no clever quests in New Vegas that I can remember. You mostly just go to places and do the obvious thing that's asked of you.
 

Zerginfestor

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Kind of funny how easy it is for Melee/Unarmed users to grab their "god tier" weapons and be done of the game so quickly: just go East. Seriously, not shitting you, just go East. If you've found that super mutant camp of the settlement with a unique missile launcher wielding-super mutant, you can find the super sledge there. Harder to find than unarmed, but much faster. For Unarmed, just travel to Salem, and do the Devil's Due quest, and grab your gauntlet. Kind of derpy to be this fast, but eh.

Arguably, killing Swan for power fist is easier and weapon itself is better than Devil's Due route.

Getting Grognak's axe is way easier than getting something from missile-flinging mutants. Just ghouls to kill and you don't even have to kill final Glowing one.

But I like Rockville Slugger even more and it can be simply bought in Diamond City market.

So, yes, endgame melee/unarmed weapons are way more accessible than ranged weapons.

I'd say the Power Fist from Swan is harder if you're going with the pure Unarmed build, but if you're using any sort of ranged capability? He's not bad. I only say Devil's Due is easier because you can literally ignore the deathclaw in the museum and just walk over to the nest and grab the gauntlet and drop the egg, done deal.
 

Bradylama

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Ginsburg is actually one of the liberal judges on the Supreme Court.
 

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