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Has Fallout 3 become a legitimate topic of discussion?

Stabwound

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Anyone that actually defends Fallout 3 is clearly suffering from a CRPG Stockholm Syndrome.
 

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Stabwound said:
Anyone that actually defends Fallout 3 is clearly suffering from a CRPG Stockholm Syndrome.

This is likely quite true. Black Isle and Troika made the best RPGs with teams of a couple dozen people. Now, Bethesda, Bioware, Obsidian have a couple hundred people churning out drivel to the lowest common denominator. Since we are so starved for air, we enjoy it. Only when going back and seeing the older games do we realize how much better they were. They did more with less.

Big commercial RPGs likely died with Troika, now onto the indie RPG where the people working on them actually have a heart.
 

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Enjoying FO3 with the FWE mod until I started playing the Anchorage DLC simulation and the combat started sucking really bad. At first I contributed it to the fact that I'm forced to use small arms and my small arms skill is only 28; turns out some reason FWE decided not to re-balance the weapons in the simulation, leaving them with their original statistics. Good thing I waited for the mods to fix the game before getting it. :P
 

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Gord said:
Oh; I fully agree with that. FO3 isn't much of a rpg. Probably after Morrowind (if they ever had) Bethesda stopped doing proper rpgs. They are doing action-adventure-hiking-games with stats. Or something.
But I had fun with their games nevertheless.

I had played FO1/2, too. Somehow I still never felt as betrayed or let down by Bethesdas version of Fallout as others did.

Btw.: I liked Megaton. Should have been the major quest hub IMHO.
The irony that is lost on most is that Bethesda knew how people would take it, but did it anyhow. The "Outcasts" in FO3 are trying to defend the true way. Actually, it's awesome. FO3 is fun, modable, and but isn't the worlds greatest RPG. So what? They ruined FO? No, blame Interplay for that.
 

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BROS THE REAL IRONING IS THAT MOST FUCKNG RETARDS HERE PLAYED THE GAME ALL THE WAY THROUGH THEN CRIED ON THE INTERNET HOW THEY HATED IT THEN PLAYED THE GAME AGAIN RIGHT SKYWAYSW
 

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BLOBERT said:
BROS THE REAL IRONING IS THAT MOST FUCKNG RETARDS HERE PLAYED THE GAME ALL THE WAY THROUGH THEN CRIED ON THE INTERNET HOW THEY HATED IT THEN PLAYED THE GAME AGAIN RIGHT SKYWAYSW
Truer words were never bellowed, bro...
 

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BLOBERT said:
BROS THE REAL IRONING IS THAT MOST FUCKNG RETARDS HERE PLAYED THE GAME ALL THE WAY THROUGH THEN CRIED ON THE INTERNET HOW THEY HATED IT THEN PLAYED THE GAME AGAIN RIGHT SKYWAYSW

I played Fallout 3 out of sheer morbid curiosity, and to see if all the bitching against it was all actually true (and it was).

Along with Dragon Age: Origins, after I finished playing Fallout 3, I threw the fucking DVD over my fence and that's where it belongs....
 

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JAESUN YOU ARE A BRO

MOST FUCKS HERE CRYABOUT GAMES NOT BEING AS GOOD AS BG2 OR NWN THOSE FUCKS NEED A BRIAN TRANSPLANT
 
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Jack_Deth said:
Stabwound said:
Anyone that actually defends Fallout 3 is clearly suffering from a CRPG Stockholm Syndrome.

This is likely quite true. Black Isle and Troika made the best RPGs with teams of a couple dozen people. Now, Bethesda, Bioware, Obsidian have a couple hundred people churning out drivel to the lowest common denominator. Since we are so starved for air, we enjoy it. Only when going back and seeing the older games do we realize how much better they were. They did more with less.
Fucking addicts.
 

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As a newfag im calling all newfags who defend this shit fucking newfags
 

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Maybe we should just move it to general gaming...
 
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I love that all the stuff that sucked in F3 gets carried over to NV gets ignored in the latter game.

Wacky as shit side quests? Check (Sorry, but two insane people pretending to be superheroes pales in comparison to a small army of Ghouls trying to fly into fucking space to find utopia)
Boring as hell locations? Even worse in NV because it just copy and pastes 90% of it's assets from F3.
Crappy voice acting? Check, at least F3 has Malcolm McDowell.

Because apparently only things are bad when Daddy isn't doing them
 

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a friend of mine stopped multiplaying indie strategy games with me due to playing F3.. should i continue the friendship?
True story btw
 
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mysterious-stranger said:
pales in comparison to a small army of Ghouls trying to fly into fucking space to find utopia)

Officially, the Vaults were nuclear shelters designed to protect the American population from nuclear holocaust. However, with a population of almost 400 million by 2077, the U.S. would need nearly 400,000 Vaults the size of Vault 13, while Vault-Tec was commissioned to build only 122 such Vaults. The government, and Vault-Tec, never really believed an actual nuclear war would occur; the real reason for the existence of these Vaults was to run experiments on pre-selected segments of the population to see how they react to the stresses of isolation and how successfully they recolonize Earth after the Vault opens.
The Enclave, responsible for the experiment (officially known as the "Societal Preservation Program"), considered themselves prime candidates for recolonizing the world after a nuclear holocaust and to this end commissioned the construction of their own shelters, isolated from the Vault network. The purpose of the Vault experiments was to help prepare the Enclave for either re-colonizing Earth or colonizing another planet if Earth turned out to be uninhabitable.

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The derpness is from way back, son
 
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And that was stupid, and that whole idea is why I found Mr House stupid, because if the Enclave who had significantly more research couldn't pull it off, what the hell made him think he could do it?
 

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The derpness is from way back, son

A race of intelligent raccoons living in an colony known as the Burrows was originally intended to appear in Fallout, but was cut due to style issues.

In-game references can still be found in The Glow.

True story, bro
 

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While I haven't played FO3 or Oblivion, I consider it a shame that ME gets much better response from the codex.
 

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Konjad said:
Gord said:
Maybe we should just move it to general gaming...

It wouldn't be enough. All Bethesda related topics should be gone to General Discussion.

Stop being so pretentious. In that case about 70% of Obsidian related topics should go there as well. And who will want that considering that Obsidian totally didn't go into decline and started making console crap?

But F3NV is a totally different game and a proper sequel to Fallout what am I talking about?!

BLOBERT said:
BROS THE REAL IRONING IS THAT MOST FUCKNG RETARDS HERE PLAYED THE GAME ALL THE WAY THROUGH THEN CRIED ON THE INTERNET HOW THEY HATED IT THEN PLAYED THE GAME AGAIN RIGHT SKYWAYSW

Bro you seem to be very obsessed with me. Why?
Care to name a single game I completed then bitched about it then completed it again?
 

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After reading the biggest dickhead moves thread, seems Fable 1 and 2 are also fair game.
 

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