Heroes of Might and Magic: Olden Era - Ubisoft returns to Enroth - coming to Early Access in Q2 2025

[gooseman]

do we need another heroes 3, especially when the original is more playable than ever, vanilla or with hd mod or hota? it doesn't sound all that different or better, but will definitely come with all the trappings of a modern game published by ubisoft.

 

[rumSaint]

do we need another heroes 3, especially when the original is more playable than ever, vanilla or with hd mod or hota? it doesn't sound all that different or better, but will definitely come with all the trappings of a modern game published by ubisoft.

That's a good question. Maybe Ubishit looked at Songs of Conquest, then at Heroes franchise and thought "We can milk that, there is market for this".

If this will be carbon copy of Heroes 3 with some minor improvements, then it's a cash grab. If they add new mechanics and distinguish enough from HoMM3 then it may be a smash hit. It's hard to say as there is not much of a gameplay and mostly promotional materials showing not that much.

 

[Malakal]

do we need another heroes 3, especially when the original is more playable than ever, vanilla or with hd mod or hota? it doesn't sound all that different or better, but will definitely come with all the trappings of a modern game published by ubisoft.

I'd say yes, we could use a reimagining of 3. I'd love new units and towns, for example, new spells, even if the underlying mechanics stay the same.

 

[Storyfag]

do we need another heroes 3, especially when the original is more playable than ever, vanilla or with hd mod or hota? it doesn't sound all that different or better, but will definitely come with all the trappings of a modern game published by ubisoft.

I'd say yes, we could use a reimagining of 3. I'd love new units and towns, for example, new spells, even if the underlying mechanics stay the same.

Yeah, but we will get always online shite instead.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

do we need another heroes 3, especially when the original is more playable than ever, vanilla or with hd mod or hota? it doesn't sound all that different or better, but will definitely come with all the trappings of a modern game published by ubisoft.

I'd say yes, we could use a reimagining of 3. I'd love new units and towns, for example, new spells, even if the underlying mechanics stay the same.

VICMII has A LOT of town mods, some of them having very decent design

But honestly I hope they do change some stuffs from HOMM3. The problem is that the AI is not capable of abusing stuff like the player does. Later user-made scenarios, especially harder ones basically lean on player abusing as many mechanics as possible to exploit the AI which I personally find unfun.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Some stuff they're saying in the slav accent videos honestly sounds potentially OK. Six factions is pretty bad, but passable.

I really don't like the aesthetics, tho. Particularly units and town screens. I feel like both would have a shot at being the worst in the series and that's saying something considering what happened post 3.

 

[Kabas]

Some heroes were revealed and...


These backstories are way too wordy. HoMM3-4 were way better in this regard.

Examples

 

[Gandalf]

I really dislike when HoMM3 music is used to promote this game. I'd like to hear some Olden Era tracks instead.
Is it known who's going to score the soundtrack? I can't find any information regarding this matter.

 

[Hydro]

Art direction is kinda shit

 

[Black]

The funny thing is that due to ubischlop's financial situation they'll probably start cutting corners and this will be one of them.

 

[Hobo Elf]

The smaller projects are probably the first ones to get flushed.

 

[ropetight]

The funny thing is that due to ubischlop's financial situation they'll probably start cutting corners and this will be one of them.

They might be forced to finally sell IP after years of raping it.

 

[duke nukem]

Some of the units:


Some look cool, but at the same lots of shit too. They ruined the inferno, now their all units look like boring insects.
Are most units over designed? It just feel "hard" to watch these units with all the random details. H3 had lot more simplistic details and it looked great and better. Is this the classic example of "less is more"?

 

[Storyfag]

Are most units over designed? It just feel "hard" to watch these units with all the random details. H3 had lot more simplistic details and it looked great and better. Is this the classic example of "less is more"?

Over-animated too. That one infernal insect spinning in the air to attack was painful to watch.

They ruined the inferno, now their all units look like boring insects.

Cargo cult. They *heard* that MM6 devils "are like insects" and thought they "are insects". They haven't touched even the game's screenshots, obviously. MM6 devils were humanoids, but with a hive hierarchy and biology: a queen, leaders/mates for the queen, warriors, workers, etc.

 

[Dr1f7]

Some of the units:


Some look cool, but at the same lots of shit too. They ruined the inferno, now their all units look like boring insects.
Are most units over designed? It just feel "hard" to watch these units with all the random details. H3 had lot more simplistic details and it looked great and better. Is this the classic example of "less is more"?

the spell effects look real nice
and actually most of the units look good
also new wrath of the lich king faction looks cool

they need to re-do the city screens tho
hol-eee shit those are awful
it's like when a good anime suddenly switches to CG

it can't be that difficult to just pay someone on fiverr $10 to draw up some city screens that look good instead of this awful 3d shit

 

[Brancaleone]

Ok, I take back any criticism I might have uttered on the graphics of HoMM4 or HoMM5. At least with those I knew what I was looking at.

 

[Radech]

Fire Pokemon
Ice Pokemon
Sigmarines
Dungeon
Necropolis

The absolute state of HoMM, at least most of its fanbase lie dead in a ditch on the Eastern front...

they need to re-do the city screens tho
hol-eee shit those are awful
it's like when a good anime suddenly switches to CG

I had to return the video when I read that, I had comepletely overlooked the generic ai backgrounds...

 

[Storyfag]

Also, we're in for an elf overdose. Sylvan elves, Dark elves, and Ice elves. FFS, Vori isn't even close to Jadame.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

elf overdose

 

[Beowulf]

elf overdose

 

[Prince(ss)]

The conspicuous lack of a mage faction bothers me. I imagine they're saving them to milk as a selling point for an expansion or something.

 

[Storyfag]

The conspicuous lack of a mage faction bothers me. I imagine they're saving them to milk as a selling point for an expansion or something.

There's no mage city in Jadame as of MM8. But granted, this is supposed to be taking place some 200 years earlier, so there conceivably could be one. But they should really make Fortress AND stronghold factions, given Jadame's large Lizardman, Troll and Ogre populations. A nod to the Wererats would be welcome too.

 

[Black]

A nod to the Wererats would be welcome too.

NO JEWS

 

[Blake00]

Some of the units:


Some look cool, but at the same lots of shit too. They ruined the inferno, now their all units look like boring insects.
Are most units over designed? It just feel "hard" to watch these units with all the random details. H3 had lot more simplistic details and it looked great and better. Is this the classic example of "less is more"?

Cheers for finding this.. watching it now.. I like that they've gone back in a more creature focused direction though. I hated how the ubi era games kicked out a lot of creatures to make room for variants of dwarfs and clickbaity elves (eg chicks in bikinis with whips urgh..). Also impressed that despite seemingly having a small indie level budget given to them but those super generous assholes at Ubi that they're doing alternate upgrades for every main faction unit (maybe not neutrals) and seemingly doing quite different graphics for the upgrade variants too. That's a lot of extra work so I didn't think anyone would ever do that again after Heroes 5, and hell technically its still never been done in a release version of a Heroes game until now as it took 2 addons before Heroes 5 actually had a full lineup of alternates.

Apologies if these have already been posted in all the pages of debating but it looks like they've started putting out dev diaries breaking down what the game will be and it's primary features..

https://steamcommunity.com/games/3105440/announcements/detail/4266684471815155308

Dev diary 1:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/3105440/announcements/detail/4592070813185873988

 

[Blutwurstritter]

I am not fond of the new look. Way too exaggerated and disproportionate, like the other recent titles. They should return to the "medieval" European style of HoMM1-3, with fairly normal anatomy and less overdone designs. I doubt these "artists" have ever seen a historical armor or weapon in their life. For now it looks like the worst kind of fantasy. Its not alien enough to be original and fantastical, nor close enough to reality to be intuitive and grounded with a sense of mystery and magic on top.