Jagged Alliance 3 from Haemimont Games

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Is there any explanation of the morale system for mercenaries? Kaufman is the only member of my squad who doesn't lose morale from robbing the dead German soldiers, and although I can send two of the others away beforehand, I need Steroid to open the grave, which leaves him with a -1 AP penalty that I don't know how to extinguish.

 

[bobocrunch]

What's people's issue with the art? I think it does well at being readable with a good level of quality (aside from animations), the atmosphere during this frantic night battle in the church town was great

 

[Darth Roxor]

It blows my mind that of all the things they could have stolen from nuxcom, they took the free enemy movement when encountered. Was there ANYONE who thought that was a good feature?

 

[geno]

I would like to buy this to show that there are monocled people out there who appreciate non-PC writing, but OTOH I don't want to show that I support the streamlining of games, especially when it comes to a revered series that I really love. What do, fellow dexers?

Follow your heart.

 

[Stokowski]

Imagine still having hope for modern games.

It's hope, not despair, that kills.

 

[cvv]

It blows my mind that of all the things they could have stolen from nuxcom, they took the free enemy movement when encountered. Was there ANYONE who thought that was a good feature?

nuXcom would be brain dead without the pod scatter mechanics since targets standing in the open suffer from HIGH bonus hit and crit chance against them. Taking all the perks, gear and stat increases into account, that means from early mid-game on most targets caught standing in the open get instagibbed.

Without pod scatter you'd run up to a group and either wipe it in one salvo or cripple it into impotence and mop up the next turn. Rinse and repeat for the majority of the 50-100 hour campaign. Not sure why people imagine that'd be a fun game to play.

Not sure you can easily remove the severe penalties for standing in the open in a cover-based combat either. It'd just devaluate the importance of cover.

It's been 15 years since I played JA2, how did SirTech solve this problem anyone?

 

[Fargus]

I would like to buy this to show that there are monocled people out there who appreciate non-PC writing, but OTOH I don't want to show that I support the streamlining of games, especially when it comes to a revered series that I really love. What do, fellow dexers?

Spoiler

This is a modern gayming industry, rotten to the core. You don't owe them anything. Don't buy it or you can buy on sales with huge discount . Or buy it now because yolo, consoom product (tm) or whatever. This isn't an rpg where your choices actually matter

They can always add woke shit later anyway and censor the game. And games are going to keep getting dumbed down regardless to appeal to fucktards.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Character creation at timestamp.

 

[Fargus]

Character creation at timestamp.

5 options for portrait in total and no option for voice, no gender...

Best way is to pick bald skinhead guy in red beret and go shoot some niggers.

 

[Fargus]

Also i heard the armor doesn't show on your mercs... I get why this wasn't a thing in JA2 but here? Thats really lazy.

 

[ArchAngel]

Combat is Nu-Xcom

That is not correct. Xcom had very abstract boardgamey shooting, this doesn't. It's not perfect, but it is simulating the ballistics. If calling this Xcom, you might as well call Phoenix Point Xcom.

In JA2 you can sneak into a sector, see the first few redshirts and can initiate the first killshot whenever you want.
JA3 uses retarded nu XCom free turn for the enemy to hide behind cover. It removes player agency. What are you talking about? JA3 feels boardgame-y as it is.

What the fuck is it that every merc has some kind of "special ability"?

Not just mercs, weapons have abilities attached to them. Like smgs have some kind of run and gun ability.

 

[markec]

It blows my mind that of all the things they could have stolen from nuxcom, they took the free enemy movement when encountered. Was there ANYONE who thought that was a good feature?

nuXcom would be brain dead without the pod scatter mechanics since targets standing in the open suffer from HIGH bonus hit and crit chance against them. Taking all the perks, gear and stat increases into account, that means from early mid-game on most targets caught standing in the open get instagibbed.

Without pod scatter you'd run up to a group and either wipe it in one salvo or cripple it into impotence and mop up the next turn. Rinse and repeat for the majority of the 50-100 hour campaign. Not sure why people imagine that'd be a fun game to play.

Not sure you can easily remove the severe penalties for standing in the open in a cover-based combat either. It'd just devaluate the importance of cover.

It's been 15 years since I played JA2, how did SirTech solve this problem anyone?

Pod system and scatter was present in Warhammer Daemonhunters and I hated is even there.

You solve this issue by having enemies scattered across large open map and when a fight breaks out multiple groups converge at your location from all sides. So even if you caught a single group in a open and wipe them out you can still be flanked and take casualties by reinforcements.

 

[ArchAngel]

I would like to buy this to show that there are monocled people out there who appreciate non-PC writing, but OTOH I don't want to show that I support the streamlining of games, especially when it comes to a revered series that I really love. What do, fellow dexers?

Spoiler

Go on Steam forums to praise the writing and lie that you bought it on GOG because of it :D

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

I would like to buy this to show that there are monocled people out there who appreciate non-PC writing, but OTOH I don't want to show that I support the streamlining of games, especially when it comes to a revered series that I really love. What do, fellow dexers?

Spoiler

Go on Steam forums to praise the writing and lie that you bought it on GOG because of it :D

I saw I.M.P questionnaire, praising writing of this is a valid reason to be hunted down with hounds.

 

[Fargus]

They removed (or better say not included) Lynx because he was sexist and buzz because she was a caricature of a crazy manhater who can get over a break up. Thats very "non pc" indeed.

 

[ArchAngel]

Is there any explanation of the morale system for mercenaries? Kaufman is the only member of my squad who doesn't lose morale from robbing the dead German soldiers, and although I can send two of the others away beforehand, I need Steroid to open the grave, which leaves him with a -1 AP penalty that I don't know how to extinguish.

On strategic layer in Operations you can send soldiers on R&R

 

[Thorgeim]

I would like to buy this to show that there are monocled people out there who appreciate non-PC writing, but OTOH I don't want to show that I support the streamlining of games, especially when it comes to a revered series that I really love. What do, fellow dexers?

Spoiler

Personally I have refunded for now, it only made me reinstall JA2 and I enjoy it much more. Im glad I tried it but I cant get over the changes, simplicity and the ugly 3D thing.

 

[Thorgeim]

They removed (or better say not included) Lynx because he was sexist and buzz because she was a caricature of a crazy manhater who can get over a break up. Thats very "non pc" indeed.

I find it amazing JA2 is still allowed to be sold on steam or gog, in the IMP you can specifically select to be a sexist and racist against a color of choice.

 

[cvv]

You solve this issue by having enemies scattered across large open map and when a fight breaks out multiple groups converge at your location from all sides. So even if you caught a single group in a open and wipe them out you can still be flanked and take casualties by reinforcements.

What does that mean in practice? Considering the map sizes, do you only get into like two huge shootouts every mission coz you always aggro mobs from half the map?

 

[Fargus]

They removed (or better say not included) Lynx because he was sexist and buzz because she was a caricature of a crazy manhater who can get over a break up. Thats very "non pc" indeed.

in the IMP you can specifically select to be a sexist and racist against a color of choice.

it's from 1.13 mod

 

[Fargus]

How non pc was JA2 for that matter?

It had tons of lunatic she-rambos that with training can get as strong as men.
Plot revolves around a powerful and ruthless woman who chased her cuck husband out of the country and usurped power.
There is a nasty bulldyke in one of the towns that asks you to find her some lesbian porn.

It's a canadian game through and through. Just had some decent writing to balance it out.

Some dark stuff too like Dynamo backstory or that quest with girl that got kindapped to work in a brothel. I doubt the new game has something like that, but i could be wrong.

 

[Stavrophore]

We should separate 1.13 with Ai mod from 1.13 and from JA 2. These three are different games tbh. In Ja2 and 1.13 you could camp behind a bar counter in a building, and shoot like a duck 40 enemies that will try to enter it. In 1.13 with sevenfm AI, AI will wait for you endlessly outside or use dynamite/rpg/explosives to blow the wall if they think you are near. So yes, vanilla ja2 was very piss poor rudimentary tactic game with hordes of mindless pistoleros rushing your team and the only way for higher difficulties was to camp in a building and cheese the fuck of it. For me the standard to uphold is Ja2 1.13 with AI mod and that's what i will compare any tactical non-fictional game against.

 

[Strange Fellow]

I just got to the church place on the mainland and cleared the whole map without ever going into turn-based mode.

Did you go in the back of the church? Cool stuff back there.

 

[markec]

You solve this issue by having enemies scattered across large open map and when a fight breaks out multiple groups converge at your location from all sides. So even if you caught a single group in a open and wipe them out you can still be flanked and take casualties by reinforcements.

What does that mean in practice? Considering the map sizes, do you only get into like two huge shootouts every mission coz you always aggro mobs from half the map?

If you go guns blazing you should have one big prolong shootout as enemies close in across the map.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]