KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance - Dan Vavra's medieval chad simulator

[Paul_cz]

It's too bad that Vavra has such an hardon for "cinematic" experiences because i'm sure all the dialogue they had to record (and so far they had quality voice actors too, at least for the important characters) and all the animations they had to do cut down on how much story and quests they could write in the game.

My hardcore playthrough already took 200 hours. I think that's a fine length for an RPG. There are quests aplenty.

no fast travel would eventually end up being way too much of a drag for me and I would never finish the playthrough.

No fast travel was my biggest worry about hardcore, but with the fastest horse, once I learned my way around, it wasn't a big issue. It helps that the world is so gorgeous to look at and so atmospheric of course. It kinda adds another layer to gameplay since it forces you to be economical with travels, trying to do as many things as possible in a given location.

 

[Lyric Suite]

It kinda adds another layer to gameplay since it forces you to be economical with travels, trying to do as many things as possible in a given location.

This is what i've been doing too. Feels great, i love how i have to pay attention to where i'm at and trying to memorize my surroundings and navigate around by means of the various land marks (crosses, interesting places etc).

I'm also trying to be as productive as i can with the time i have. I used to do some of that in the Infinite Engine games, like i would avoid resting for days to heal or do anything that would cause absurd amounts of time to pass in the game. That would sometime include not picking up gear to avoid making endless trips back to town to sell it (which would take days back and forth).

 

[Lyric Suite]

The Capon voice actor (Luke Dale) was considered for the role of Henry but they ran with the other guy in the end. A bad decision I say. Dale's Henry would likely have more of a scoundrel feel but more fun. McKay's Henry is meh.

I don't know, i think it fits this dynamic they have going for between the two and main characters in games usually are a bit blank for a reason. It's clear now that Capon is basically a counterpart to Henry except from the other side of the equation. It's a very touching dynamic coming at the heels of Pillars of Eternity (last storyfag RPG i played, or tried to play before may playthrough got cock blocked by the release of Elden Ring lmao) it's refreshing. The writing on Pillars was so fucking depressing. I think i'm having a bit of the same reaction to KCD that some people had for the new Top Gun movie. It's like, sometimes things can be fun and not be always fucking miserable you know?

 

[Lyric Suite]

Ok another example of the kind of fun i'm having in this game. I bolted from the Cumans since even if i can beat them i can't take their stuff with me. So i went to sleep, and i got up early because i was already at full nourishment and energy. So instead of passing time by pressing T, i'm passing time looking for mushrooms i can cook so i can have some food for the road.

 

[cvv]

I would like to try Hardcore mode but I'm pretty certain no fast travel would eventually end up being way too much of a drag for me and I would never finish the playthrough. I'm not that much of an immersion fag anymore, I appreciate things that save me time now. If I was 15-20 years younger I'm sure I would be into it though. I wish there was a customizeable difficulty mode.

It's really not a problem most of the time. It's mildly annoying only the first few hours after the prologue, when your horse is slow and you don't know the world yet but once you get your first good horse and get your bearings travelling from a place to place is p. quick. It helps the world is kindda small (but full of detail, in the best tradition of Gothic 1/2).

BY FAR the more problematic feature is not being able to see yourself on the map. It was a huge pain before I got my bearings. Once, due to the Somnambulist malus, I fell asleep and woke up in the middle of a forest. Took me literal hours (in-game) before I found my way back to the civilization. And I kept struggling with this feature for most of my HC run. No fast-travel is a breeze compared to this.

P.S. Ad "I'm not an immersion fag anymore" - I was positively anti-immersion before KCD. Seeing all those fags installing survival mods to Skyrim and trying to larp that PoS made me laugh so hard. But KCD is specifically designed as a larper's paradise. Unlike most other RPGs, the more you're larping this, the more fun it is. If you're not playing HC and going for full LARP/immershun you're not harnessing the game's full potential.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Lmao. Like, lol. I was standing next to the fire admiring the forest, and some rabbit actually walked next to me. I shot it, and got my first hare meat. I was just going to cook one to give it to Mutt since its stolen meat and i don't want it with me, but when i put it on the fire instead of cooking one by one it cooked all 15 i looted from the corpse and now they no longer appear stolen once cooked. That's amazing i can basically just send Mutt to kill them, cook the meat, sell it, and make free gold out of nothing. That almost feels like cheating.

 

[The_Mask]

The game assumes that when you kill the rabbit, and cook the meat, you're thinking about feeding yourself as a matter of survival. And it *is* a game... so... it's not as much as it is cheating it is as much as the reality of playing a videogame - it can't read your thoughts.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Well, the hunt has begun! May the best archer win!

Lol yeah right i just whipped Mutt at every rabbit i see and killed five and it's 6:47. By noon i'll have cleared the entirety of Bohemia of rabbits.

[EDIT] Hey, Mutt gets tired of hunting. Interesting.

 

[The_Mask]

So... it seems you're starting to love that mutt, eh? :D

 

[Lyric Suite]

It's 8:29 and i'm already close to being encumbered from hare meat. I guess i can try to actually shoot some for the remaining three hours lul.

[EDIT] Hold on here can Mutt actually spook animals? I was sneaking up to a rabbit then Mutt got in front me and the rabbit bolted. Maybe that's why i'm having such an hard time? I thought things in the game just ignored Mutt.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Damn i'm good, i snuck around the Cuman camp, pillaged the chests, than chocked both Cumans and looted their shit. I'm now sneaking away with Capon while encumbered i hope i can make it to town i ain't giving up shit.

 

[The_Mask]

Doesn't the game teleport you back to Rattay as soon as you cut his binds off? Or is is differently on hardcore mode?

 

[Lyric Suite]

Nope, i got teleported to town, but now i gotta go with Bernard after bandits. I'm crawling my way to the mill as fast as i can so i can get my armor. I hope Bernard is gonna wait for me lul.

[EDIT] Turns out i can't. Fuck.

So i reloaded and i'm now riding with Bernard, still encumbered. Sadly, some of the hare meat has gone bad already shiiiiet.

 

[The_Mask]

Unfortunate, but you shan't be encumbered for longer! :D

 

[Lyric Suite]

I'm now investigating the murder, questioning witnesses and looking for tracks... with a sack filled with bandit armor and rotten meat hanging on my back lul.

 

[Lhynn]

Good tip about the potion, but if only animals would stop moving.

I guess i need to raise my hunting skill? Because as soon as i spot them, every tiny movement i make sends them scurrying around and i'm at 12 stealth with zero noise gear.

Remember to hunt without armor, only the glove thing to avoid hurting yourself with a bow. Stealth is very important and noise hurts it massively. My Henry is an exhibitionist.

 

[Lyric Suite]

So i find the bandit killing his friend, sneak up to him then choke him out. Loot his shit, and now it tells me i can't even go on the horse. I'm too encumbered for poor Pebbles. So i dropped all the hare meat, and i can ride now, but now i gotta go look for that Ginder dude. Can i PLEASE drop into town so i can unload my shit. Also i'm supposed to go talk to Theresa and there's the tourney again and i'm stuck with this shit fuuuuuu....

 

[Lyric Suite]

I'm fucking retarded, i just figured out i can drop all the shit on the horse right from the inventory. Ayy...

 

[The_Mask]

Yes, your horse is amazing.

 

[Paul_cz]

BY FAR the more problematic feature is not being able to see yourself on the map.

Problematic? That's the best feature of hardcore and one of the reasons I love this game so much. It is so refreshing being able to actually get lost in a game.

 

[Modron]

KCD isn't really that big that you need a map, you'll eventually be able to orient yourself just fine without checking it.

 

[Lyric Suite]

This adventure is amazing i've been after the charcoal people looking for this Ginger faggot, and finally they send me to kill bandits. So since i still have half a mind of getting the merciful achievement, i just used Mutt to kill them! Alas, once i got back to the charcoal people they were all sound aleep. So i figured, imma head back to the Mill, except what do i find along the way? An inn! Now that's some atmospheric shit if i ever saw one.

I also just found out that any shit you have on your chest moves along with you on any bed you own, as the chest in my room in the inn had all the stuff i shoved in it in the Mill. Unrealistic, but i guess it was necessary.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Doesn't the game teleport you back to Rattay as soon as you cut his binds off? Or is is differently on hardcore mode?

Yes, through the power of cinematic cutscenes:

 

[Lyric Suite]

Heh, now Henry and Capon are basically best buddies. The quality of the writing of this game is a bit uneven, especially all those swearing and silly jokes about balls and what not. Maybe it all sounds better in Czech but i'll let it pass. Could be a whole lot worse.

 

[ItsChon]

Heh, now Henry and Capon are basically best buddies. The quality of the writing of this game is a bit uneven, especially all those swearing and silly jokes about balls and what not. Maybe it all sounds better in Czech but i'll let it pass. Could be a whole lot worse.

Life threatening situations tend to do that to be honest, and they're a lot more alike then they'd like to admit. I found the development of their relationship more than fine.