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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

Lyric Suite

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So apparently, Theresa's not even in this game and barely even mentioned? All the rumors of Theresa cucking you were bs? If anything Theresa is the one who was done dirty from what I hear Henry can be the ultimate degenerate coomer fuckboy in this game, basically fucking every female and then get his asshole devastated by Capon.

What i read is that you get a choice to be chaste in the game in order to remain faithful to her and if you do you get a letter saying she married one of your friends.
 

VerSacrum

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Some quest chains really are such huge time wasters, the one with the gypsies has been the worst so far. Fetch quest after fetch quest with some feminist lecturing in between, all terribly voice acted. Some odd writing in places too, for example Henry seems baffled at the concept of a Robber Knight (Gules), despite encountering several of them in KC:D if I remember correctly.

Definitely grand moments too though, like a certain reveal just after the ambush with the handgunners.
 

whocares

Savant
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Anyway aside for the woke shit how is the game compared to the original? Combat, writing, quests etc.
Animations and the general flow of combat is much better now. Maces and axes got gimped in what they can do, but axes weren't good for anything in 1, and maces were the head-bonk one-trick pony, so that's not a great loss. Clinching is less cheesable as well. Swords feel much better to use now. You can actually pull off combos, and there's a constant split second decision whether to block or attempt a masterstrike. Masterstriking actually takes skill now and isn't automatic. Enemies barely use them too, allowing you to actually engage with the combat system, and those that do - you have ways to avoid being masterstruck. Haven't messed around with polearms, but they're a fully-realized type of weapons now.

Writing is noticeably more feminist and librul at times, but it does have great moments too. Probably they had some new writers or something, while the old ones are still going strong.

To fully grasp quest design one has to play through the game 7 times as per the codex tradition, but on the surface it looks way more complex. The big gypsy quest has a lot of ways to solve it, and even more ways to fuck it up at any stage. And as they're all annoying assholes (as gypsies are known to be), there's a big incentive to intentionally fuck it up. Then there's the drunk Cumans quest line where you can just beat them up/kill them, which is the most obvious thing to do and the game pushes you to it, but if you instead don't, they become a small quest hub with skill teachers, connections to later in the game, and several quests. Even outside of hardcore mode (that's not available yet), numerous quests give you verbal directions and then the marker defines a wide area for where you need to go, so you actually need to pay attention and use your head to find where the objective is.
 

GentlemanCthulhu

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One problem I have with the quest design is that seemingly the only way to get good outcomes in many quests and quest stages is to use persuasion, which is quite difficult to pull off early on, even though I specialized in it.

I don't know if the writing in KCD 2 is any more liberul compared to prequel. Both games seemed quite inauthentic to me. Too many unmarried women have lovers, too many wives semi-openly cheat and get away with it, etc. etc. but to be honest, I think current-day Europeans are just like that and think their ancestors in the past were also the same? I don't personally think this was the result of targeted woke influence / agenda, etc. (though those things definitely do happen).
 

whocares

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One problem I have with the quest design is that seemingly the only way to get good outcomes in many quests and quest stages is to use persuasion, which is quite difficult to pull off early on, even though I specialized in it.

I don't know if the writing in KCD 2 is any more liberul compared to prequel. Both games seemed quite inauthentic to me. Too many unmarried women have lovers, too many wives semi-openly cheat and get away with it, etc. etc. but to be honest, I think current-day Europeans are just like that and think their ancestors in the past were also the same? I don't personally think this was the result of targeted woke influence / agenda, etc. (though those things definitely do happen).
A lot of the time when encountering something Henry has no clue about, but it's something that would outrage your average provincial medieval hick, like foreigners or sodomy, you're given an understanding dialogue option, a clueless option, and a neutral-disengage with the topic option. You don't get a clearly negative one. Which is the most grating thing about the game so far.
 

cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Anyway aside for the woke shit how is the game compared to the original? Combat, writing, quests etc.
P. much everything has been improved, especially the combat and the crime system (and graphix ofc). Writing is just as good (duh, written by the same people), quests mostly great, with some duds like in the first game.

As VerSacrum already said, the gypsy quest is the worst so far, running there and back across the map for no good reason. Well at least I robbed the gypsy camp blind - and they were stacked - so there's a silver lining.
 

Konjad

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I still didn't go to the wedding yet, or find Mutt, but Henry grows visibly.

I went for a charming Henrietta with a dildo and an xbow. Not good at talking though yet.

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Thanks,
Sherry
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cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
I still didn't go to the wedding yet, or find Mutt, but Henry grows visibly.

I went for a charming Henrietta with a dildo and an xbow. Not good at talking though yet.
Holy shit you haven't been to the wedding yet and you're lvl 19? With 17 STR and 21 VIT? What the fuck. Have you been doing nothing but running around the map on foot and hitting bandits with that mace?
 

Konjad

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I still didn't go to the wedding yet, or find Mutt, but Henry grows visibly.

I went for a charming Henrietta with a dildo and an xbow. Not good at talking though yet.
Holy shit you haven't been to the wedding yet and you're lvl 19? With 17 STR and 21 VIT? What the fuck. Have you been doing nothing but running around the map on foot and hitting bandits with that mace?
I didn't even realize you could get your horse back for free until very recently :lol:

Thanks,
Sherry
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whocares

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I still didn't go to the wedding yet, or find Mutt, but Henry grows visibly.

I went for a charming Henrietta with a dildo and an xbow. Not good at talking though yet.
Holy shit you haven't been to the wedding yet and you're lvl 19? With 17 STR and 21 VIT? What the fuck. Have you been doing nothing but running around the map on foot and hitting bandits with that mace?
Yeah, I'm 11 in both strength and agility, and I've already exhasuted what side quests I could find and am currently doing the main wedding quest. This guy is on a whole nother level (Also, he's actually 19 STR and 23 VIT naturally, the + numbers are added on top of it).
 

GentlemanCthulhu

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One problem I have with the quest design is that seemingly the only way to get good outcomes in many quests and quest stages is to use persuasion, which is quite difficult to pull off early on, even though I specialized in it.

I don't know if the writing in KCD 2 is any more liberul compared to prequel. Both games seemed quite inauthentic to me. Too many unmarried women have lovers, too many wives semi-openly cheat and get away with it, etc. etc. but to be honest, I think current-day Europeans are just like that and think their ancestors in the past were also the same? I don't personally think this was the result of targeted woke influence / agenda, etc. (though those things definitely do happen).
A lot of the time when encountering something Henry has no clue about, but it's something that would outrage your average provincial medieval hick, like foreigners or sodomy, you're given an understanding dialogue option, a clueless option, and a neutral-disengage with the topic option. You don't get a clearly negative one. Which is the most grating thing about the game so far.
Everything here tracks. Case and point, no option to tell her "I don't give a shit, I'm taking you back to the camp". Although, you *can* just murder the both of them and fail the quest. In games like this, I find universal character death to solve a lot of issues for me. Not sure if KCD 2 features true UCD though.
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PlayerEmers

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I know that you can level up strenght/vitality while walking encumbered.

But it seems completely overtuned,you level so fast even if you are walking with just one pound of encumberance.
You even level the main level doing it.

I did some test and walked from the devil den to kuttenberg (its a long walk, takes like 15 minutes) and Ieveld STR/VIT 4 times, and main level 2 times.
 

lukaszek

the determinator
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so far thievery isnt bad, although i didnt go crazy in towns, yet. I was busy exploring forests and killing wolves while searching for mutt lol.

My main pet peeve is skills/perks economy. They go gothic trope with your character losing progress due to injury, yet your skills/stats dont go to 1, rather 5? But you see this 5 is actually beginner level. And you need for example 8 thievery to start picking medium locks(good luck with that lol).
I hate skillflation.

Was weapon swap in kcd1 this slow? Youd better be far if you want to fire 1 shot and switch as henry is in no rush. Also to pull your sword you need to exit sneaking
 

Nas92

Augur
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So apparently, Theresa's not even in this game and barely even mentioned? All the rumors of Theresa cucking you were bs? If anything Theresa is the one who was done dirty from what I hear Henry can be the ultimate degenerate coomer fuckboy in this game, basically fucking every female and then get his asshole devastated by Capon.

What i read is that you get a choice to be chaste in the game in order to remain faithful to her and if you do you get a letter saying she married one of your friends.
Wait, is that for real or are you fucking with me? So if you remain faithful the game explicitly trolls you and calls you a loser? That tells me that they explicitly didn't want people to get attached to Theresa and maybe they even hate her and regret writing the character.
 

cvv

Arcane
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Kingdom of Bohemia
Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
so far thievery isnt bad
What I learned is thieving is harder to pull off consequence-free than in 1 but it's fine once you crack the game's code. For example if you go in at night and unseen you can rob everyone blind and there are no drawbacks.

Except maybe if you keep doing it your rep is gonna plummet but not sure what are the consequences of that. Do NPCs stop talking to you or giving you quests or trading with you if your rep drops to the red?
 

cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Everything here tracks. Case and point, no option to tell her "I don't give a shit, I'm taking you back to the camp".
You can promise Marika to exchange the letter for the amulet and then say to the gypsy honcho "Fuck Marika, here's the letter". Not sure what happens next tho.

In one side quests an old wench asks you to bury her allegedly suicidal husband in the consecrated cemetery and you can refuse with "No, that's a sin".

Plenty of opportunities to play as a goody two shoes Christian or an asshole but it's not consistent across all quests. There's a lack of the option to play as a Codexer and say to the gypsies "Fucking darkies, go back to where you came from" but I guess you can't expect that in 2025, not even from Warhorse.
 

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