KickStarter Knights of the Chalice 2 Thread - Augury of Chaos

[Acrux]

I figured Steam might put it on sale anyways

That's not how Steam sales work. Valve doesn't get to decide the price a game is sold at, or when it goes on sale, or even if a game/publisher/developer participates in a sale.

Oh, I guess my page didn't refresh. Looks like NJClaw already explained this.

 

[Humanophage]

What's the situation with enlargement? I was thinking about making a Storm Warrior mantis with quadruple-wielded Shillelagh-enlarged clubs. Give it weapon finesse and max dex. Is that a viable build? I started one and it said that they cannot wear armour, but she's wearing the "barbarian armour" just fine - I probably haven't read some caveat.

 

[Sacibengala]

It got 10% off on the last gog sale.

 

[jungl]

the vampire monks were literal whos I forgot about them. Did they not take double damage from fire and in tiny nuke friendly rooms?

 

[Mauman]

What's the situation with enlargement? I was thinking about making a Storm Warrior mantis with quadruple-wielded Shillelagh-enlarged clubs. Give it weapon finesse and max dex. Is that a viable build? I started one and it said that they cannot wear armour, but she's wearing the "barbarian armour" just fine - I probably haven't read some caveat.

weapon finesse doesn't work with clubs.

That being said, it'll suffer what all non-fighters/monks have to deal with when going with multiple melee hit builds - no wade in.

Sure, there's the pounce belt out there, but pounce is unreliable and it conflicts with the "always enlarged" belt.

edit - also the armor bit - mantises can't wear armor outside of robes. The basic armor you start with on characters is a non-armor giving piece of armor that counts as a robe. It's basically a class-based cosmetic.

 

[ItsChon]

Is the game in a good enough sate at the version to buy?

EDIT: What's the latest version?

 

[Abu Antar]

Is the game in a good enough sate at the version to buy?

EDIT: What's the latest version?

In its current state, the game is fine. That is if he didn't suddenly break something that I am not aware of.

Version is 1.42.

 

[youhomofo]

Okay, so I finished the second battle against Pizzeria the warlock. Every moment up to and including that battle I've absolutely loved. It felt like a huge accomplishment winning that fight. Took intelligent use of all my resources and spells.

I thought I was done with the sewers and I'd be returning to the surface for some quests and stuff, but no. Now I'm in an endless maze of halls and every two steps there's another massive battle. I love challenge. I'm not bitching about that. But it's fucking exhausting. I'm starved for 5 minutes of nonviolent exploration, NPC chitchat, a puzzle, a quest. Anything but another gang of magical rapebeasts and undead wizards literally bursting out of the walls for another drawn out battle.

Is it just me or does the pacing go to shit after the Pizarra fight? I'm quickly losing my will to play. Does it get better if I keep pushing on? I had so much fun up to this point. If nothing else KOTC2 has inspired me to give Dark Sun another go, so it's not all bad.

I started one and it said that they cannot wear armour, but she's wearing the "barbarian armour" just fine - I probably haven't read some caveat.

The starting barbarian armor? It has no actual armor value. It's just an outfit. Thri-kreen can wear anything without AC, such as robes or the non-armor armor you start with.

 

[Pink Eye]

That's just Augury of Chaos module. It's all combats. There are some puzzles intermittent here and there, such as Crypt Death Snare, Witch riddles, and Key Masters riddles; but it's mostly combats.

 

[Volourn]

It is a CRPG where CRPG stands fir combat role-playing game.


TRUE STORY.

If you expect anything else that is on you. Even the class/race talents largely focus on how battles start. Lol

 

[warcrimes666]

youhomofo you may want to try the Hearkenwold module here:

https://www.nexusmods.com/knightsofthechalice2/mods/5?tab=description

Its very good and extremely classic feel. It plays alot like many of the first and second editon modules in my opinion while retaining the kotc 2 combat ai. Might be more along the lines of what you were enjoying.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Does it get better if I keep pushing on?

Nope, it only gets worse. If you're already burning out, I suggest dropping it, or getting to the end of chapter 3 and pretending that that's where the game ends.

Also I can relate with the 'exhausting' part. I tried playing through this again after its real release and dropped it in the middle of chap3 because I realised I just can't be bothered with this shit.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Does it get better if I keep pushing on?

Nope, it only gets worse. If you're already burning out, I suggest dropping it, or getting to the end of chapter 3 and pretending that that's where the game ends.

Also I can relate with the 'exhausting' part. I tried playing through this again after its real release and dropped it in the middle of chap3 because I realised I just can't be bothered with this shit.

But but, what about the huegpenis? :/

 

[razvedchiki]

is there a way to make the font bigger?

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

I told Pierre at release that a sale might be a good idea.

But we all know how closely he follows good business advice...

Contrary to their talking points, Libertarians seem to be no more successful in business than many of their peers. It's quite strange really.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Okay, so I finished the second battle against Pizzeria the warlock. Every moment up to and including that battle I've absolutely loved. It felt like a huge accomplishment winning that fight. Took intelligent use of all my resources and spells.

I thought I was done with the sewers and I'd be returning to the surface for some quests and stuff, but no. Now I'm in an endless maze of halls and every two steps there's another massive battle. I love challenge. I'm not bitching about that. But it's fucking exhausting. I'm starved for 5 minutes of nonviolent exploration, NPC chitchat, a puzzle, a quest. Anything but another gang of magical rapebeasts and undead wizards literally bursting out of the walls for another drawn out battle.

Is it just me or does the pacing go to shit after the Pizarra fight? I'm quickly losing my will to play. Does it get better if I keep pushing on? I had so much fun up to this point. If nothing else KOTC2 has inspired me to give Dark Sun another go, so it's not all bad.

Come on, you know deep down, you like rapebeasts.
At the end of chapter 3, you'll have the opportunity to visit the village again.

Spoiler

For a couple of fights. Aside from this and a merchant, 1/2 quests to conclude quickly and then, back to business in chapter 4.

Don't get your hopes up, chapter 4 will dump even more rapebeasts on you.

I played the game at least 12 times but only completed it 3 times, chapter 1/2 are the best part, aside from a couple of memorable encounters.

youhomofo you may want to try the Hearkenwold module here:

https://www.nexusmods.com/knightsofthechalice2/mods/5?tab=description

Its very good and extremely classic feel. It plays alot like many of the first and second editon modules in my opinion while retaining the kotc 2 combat ai. Might be more along the lines of what you were enjoying.

This.
Hearkenwold is the kind of adventure you seek, it's well worth playing, plenty of cities to explore, damsels in distress and dragons.

 

[Desiderius]

Game is designed around blowing through your consumables liberally. And not playing the higher difficulties until you know what's coming.

A lot different game when you're planning for six fights before the next rest vs an unknown number.

 

[Ontopoly]

If I kickstarted the game and got the individual installer can I bully Pierre to give me it on steam/GOG?

 

[Humanophage]

What is the point of Xantrix's (monk) build? He has extremely low Dex. I imagine the idea is that he grapples, so the Dex bonus to AC would be lost. However, it also means his initiative blows, so he won't start grappling important characters until they have already casted their spells. What's the idea there?

 

[Pink Eye]

What is the point of Xantrix's (monk) build? He has extremely low Dex. I imagine the idea is that he grapples, so the Dex bonus to AC would be lost. However, it also means his initiative blows, so he won't start grappling important characters until they have already casted their spells. What's the idea there?

It is a mystery. Some of the companions have weird stats, like I remember one of the druids you can get in prologue not having amazing initiative - which isn't good, in my opinion.

Better off optimizing your own party rather than relying on premade characters.

 

[Mauman]

What is the point of Xantrix's (monk) build? He has extremely low Dex. I imagine the idea is that he grapples, so the Dex bonus to AC would be lost. However, it also means his initiative blows, so he won't start grappling important characters until they have already casted their spells. What's the idea there?

It is a mystery. Some of the companions have weird stats, like I remember one of the druids you can get in prologue not having amazing initiative - which isn't good, in my opinion.

Better off optimizing your own party rather than relying on premade characters.

Or a good wisdom for that matter....or 20 strength for a class that has almost no melee buffs (outside of Shillelagh).

Shit be weird yo.

At least the water druid has the good grace to have 18 wis 20 dex...even if Mantis is a really poor fit druid. Her feats are shit though. And she's the 2nd worst druid type (better than the fire druid though).

Considering how optimized the enemies in this game tend to be, I feel no shame in admitting that if I'm going to use a companion that I "fix" their stats to be not shit.

The module editor is a nice little thing once you know what you're doing.

 

[Desiderius]

What is the point of Xantrix's (monk) build? He has extremely low Dex. I imagine the idea is that he grapples, so the Dex bonus to AC would be lost. However, it also means his initiative blows, so he won't start grappling important characters until they have already casted their spells. What's the idea there?

I didn't have that problem with him. He was fine, and DEX is a good dump stat for him because he gets all the usual benefits from WIS IIRC? I was usually getting initiative from well-managed dialogues? Can't remember now but he ends up with a lot of speed so has more range than other grapplers* and his Saves are great (plus he gets Spell Resistance). Ended up not having room because I was using Pal for Grappling and Pal gives group bonuses but he does well with a Fire Mage. His ranged touch attack ends up being pretty good in that case if you don't want to get him gummed in an area you're nuking for instance.

You can Move (a lot) + Stunning Fist + Swift Grapple.

 

[Desiderius]

What is the point of Xantrix's (monk) build? He has extremely low Dex. I imagine the idea is that he grapples, so the Dex bonus to AC would be lost. However, it also means his initiative blows, so he won't start grappling important characters until they have already casted their spells. What's the idea there?

It is a mystery. Some of the companions have weird stats, like I remember one of the druids you can get in prologue not having amazing initiative - which isn't good, in my opinion.

Better off optimizing your own party rather than relying on premade characters.

I like the companions in general but they each have a problem to solve if you want to get the most out of them. Biggest challenge with the Druid is how to get the most (or anything at all) out of the Rake he comes with. The Storm Warrior was a better fit for most of my parties and wasn't a fan of Water Specialization, but with Wind Mastery Gust of Wind gets really good.

Favorite party ended up with four or five companions and I designed starting characters that would swap out with them when I picked them up. Sorc + Warlock start out slow but end up covering spells well so ideal to start with Wiz and Psi and swap them out for more the more flexible companions. I think I had a Champ to swap out with the Pal you find last.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

If I kickstarted the game and got the individual installer can I bully Pierre to give me it on steam/GOG?

Just ask him, he does oblige.

 

[GhostCow]

The gog version is a couple of versions behind steam