NWN Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition - Beamdog's final enhancement - now with new premium modules

[Farewell young Prince into the night]

New patch is out.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/704450/view/3024709067883499239



Edit: Fatal error encountered after one minute of clicking around in the menu

 

[Gargaune]

Edit: Fatal error encountered after one minute of clicking around in the menu

Heh. Was it in the new campaign browser? We'll have to get rogueknight333 up there once he finishes Swordflight.

 

[Chippy]

So they went from Angeline Jolie:

and created a somewhat sexy elf:

and then finally ended up with:

a MILF Greta Thunberg. Probably a MELF joke in there somewhere as well. For the sickos anyway.

The decline really did start early. Or maybe Greta Thunberg is some kind of pixe/golem clone from the natural world sent to torment us. There could be trillions of them spawning underground like Uruk-Hai in LOTR...

 

[Poseidon00]

So they went from Angeline Jolie:

and created a somewhat sexy elf:

and then finally ended up with:

a MILF Greta Thunberg. Probably a MELF joke in there somewhere as well. For the sickos anyway.

The decline really did start early. Or maybe Greta Thunberg is some kind of pixe/golem clone from the natural world sent to torment us. There could be trillions of them spawning underground like Uruk-Hai in LOTR...

Third one is best.

 

[DaveO]

I use the EE to play the much reviled OC. I have a few characters that are actually pretty good. I also use EE for the expansions.

 

[Mary Sue Leigh]

Pretty sure those portrait changes pre-date the EE.
They came at a time when I was still playing the game and I don't play or own the "enhanced" edition.
It was either when Hordes of the Underdark came out or with the last big patch "Wyvern Crown of Cormyr" that added horsies and the last new tileset.
Meaning it was, in either case, before Greta was even born, so I dunno how deep the conspiracy goes, here.

 

[Gargaune]

Pretty sure those portrait changes pre-date the EE.
They came at a time when I was still playing the game and I don't play or own the "enhanced" edition.
It was either when Hordes of the Underdark came out or with the last big patch "Wyvern Crown of Cormyr" that added horsies and the last new tileset.
Meaning it was, in either case, before Greta was even born, so I dunno how deep the conspiracy goes, here.

It happened during the the game's primary lifecycle, around when HotU rolled out and well before the PM program, if I recall correctly. So yes, this is BioWare's ancient history.

 

[Gargaune]

Oh, for fuck's sake! Just tried the v83 patch and POST_ waypoints appeared to be broken when I tested my hobby module, all posted NPCs were facing East regardless of marker orientation. Anyone else run into this? A quick skim of Beamdog's forums didn't show any threads on it, but I can't be the only one.

I ended up rolling back to v82, I guess you could say I, uh... can't work under these conditions. Up and running again but I still have to redo my script editor colour scheme. I also ran into a cosmetic bug with the Shiny Water shader, it was throwing a weird outline onto overlapping level geometry which wasn't the case before. Either way, I can deal with turning Shiny Water off, but broken post functionality is out of the question. It's a shame, 'cause I did like the new decimal UI scaling even if I wasn't too keen on the new font. I hope they're aware of this stuff.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

, all posted NPCs were facing East regardless of marker orientation.

Maybe they face West in the evening.

 

[Sykar]

They used some celebrity photos/ads and painted over them: scroll down a bit. it's pretty funny, I think those are some of the best ones. You can still find them in various portrait packs and mods on the vault, such as here.

I mean Baldurs Gate 2 already did that:

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

They used some celebrity photos/ads and painted over them: scroll down a bit.

This one is absolutely hilarious.

 

[Konjad]

Pretty sure those portrait changes pre-date the EE.
They came at a time when I was still playing the game and I don't play or own the "enhanced" edition.
It was either when Hordes of the Underdark came out or with the last big patch "Wyvern Crown of Cormyr" that added horsies and the last new tileset.
Meaning it was, in either case, before Greta was even born, so I dunno how deep the conspiracy goes, here.

If I remember correctly patch 1.68 or around? It also added cloaks. It's just patched NWN stuff.

 

[Bester]

I hope they're aware of this stuff.

Why hope? Just tell them. Report bugs.

 

[Gargaune]

Why hope? Just tell them. Report bugs.

I looked up their bug reporting platform last night, I'll put a ticket in as long as it doesn't require me to register an account. I hate registering accounts. But first I'll want to test both bugs with a clean install on my laptop when I can be arsed.

 

[Bester]

I hate registering accounts.

The price we have to pay sometimes...

 

[Desiderius]

Pretty sure those portrait changes pre-date the EE.
They came at a time when I was still playing the game and I don't play or own the "enhanced" edition.
It was either when Hordes of the Underdark came out or with the last big patch "Wyvern Crown of Cormyr" that added horsies and the last new tileset.
Meaning it was, in either case, before Greta was even born, so I dunno how deep the conspiracy goes, here.

Very deep indeed:

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/22/greta-thunberg-time-traveller-1891-photo

 

[Gargaune]

Oh, come on! So I rolled back to v82 after my brief run in with the latest build, only to notice another toolset bug - the tile lights won't update in the viewport. Turning viewport lighting on and off or hitting Refresh doesn't do jack shit, you gotta close and reload the area if you want to see any changes you've done to the tile lighting. Interestingly, while I've confirmed this bug has been present in both the v81 and v82 builds, Beamdog fixed it in the latest v83... However, v83 has the aforementioned bug with NPCs all turning East on their POST waypoints.

Well, I've now confirmed it the POST bug on both my PCs, Poseidon00 also kindly did it on his install, guess I'll look into Beamdog's bug reporting when I have the time.

As a sidenote, I've also complained about a shader bug with Shiny Water in the latest build, but I was unable to replicate it on my laptop, might be driver-specific. But the F9 Quick Launch is effectively unusable on either of my machines, stutters like crazy.

 

[razvedchiki]

are there any challenging encounters in HOTU? im at the point where i have to take off the dark elves army near the good dark elves city, and have cutting through anything without much effort.

 

[Cael]

are there any challenging encounters in HOTU? im at the point where i have to take off the dark elves army near the good dark elves city, and have cutting through anything without much effort.

If you made your build correctly, then not really. You pretty much cut through anything with a bog basic high level fighter/RDD, so you can do much more with casters. It is only the dramaqueen Int 10 Wizards that will suffer.

The only one I can think of off-hand is the Valsharess fight, but that is only because she has Heal and is not afraid to use it.

 

[pomenitul]

Are Nathyrra's spellcasting abilities still bugged at higher levels in the EE?

 

[d1nolore]

The hardest fight in HotU is probably the mirror image.

but you know games are made to be completed these days, not defeated.

 

[Gargaune]

Mods Beamdog have fixed it! Just checked and since that 83.8193.23 build I was screeching about, they've put out two new patches. Must've finally kidnapped an Owlcat developer, well done! Anyway, that POST bug seems to be sorted and they've been tinkering with the new font, it had been (justly) catching a lot of heat on their own forums.

Edit: Scratch that, there's still something odd with the POST waypoints. Looks like NPCs will ignore them if they're already nearby, they might've added a range tolerance. Oh well, I can work with it for now, at least they've stopped staring into the sunrise. My shiny water bug's still there but that might be GPU-related and I'm in no rush to update my drivers. Last kicker is I've noticed a bit more Toolset instability, got two "pure virtual function call" crashes while I was messing around.

 

[rogueknight333]

are there any challenging encounters in HOTU? im at the point where i have to take off the dark elves army near the good dark elves city, and have cutting through anything without much effort.

Very little challenge. The demi-lich in Ch. 2 might be a little tough if you do not bring any weapons that can actually get through all his numerous immunities, resistances, etc. The Ch. 3 fight against Grimgnaw and his companions can be a bit difficult if you go into it unprepared, and that is likely enough given how easy most everything else is. The final boss fight might sometimes be a little difficult depending on previous decisions you have made, but is probably just as likely to be rendered laughably easy.

Mods Beamdog have fixed it! Just checked and since that 83.8193.23 build I was screeching about, they've put out two new patches. Must've finally kidnapped an Owlcat developer, well done! Anyway, that POST bug seems to be sorted and they've been tinkering with the new font, it had been (justly) catching a lot of heat on their own forums.

Now we need to find out what new bugs they introduced fixing these. Beamdog patching is like a literal popamole game.

 

[Gargaune]

Okay, someone really needs to have another go at the renderer's frame cap. If I toggle it on (at 130 FPS, mind you!), I get slightly choppy camera rotation and severely uneven mousewheel zoom (even though it works butter smooth from the keyboard). If I leave it off, it's all nice and silky, minus the part where the game churns out 500 FPS and runs my GPU like it's Cyberpunk. It's summer, guys, it's hot! I don't wanna run my aircon just to play Shadows of bloody Undrentide!

 

[Cael]

are there any challenging encounters in HOTU? im at the point where i have to take off the dark elves army near the good dark elves city, and have cutting through anything without much effort.

Very little challenge. The demi-lich in Ch. 2 might be a little tough if you do not bring any weapons that can actually get through all his numerous immunities, resistances, etc. The Ch. 3 fight against Grimgnaw and his companions can be a bit difficult if you go into it unprepared, and that is likely enough given how easy most everything else is. The final boss fight might sometimes be a little difficult depending on previous decisions you have made, but is probably just as likely to be rendered laughably easy.

Mods Beamdog have fixed it! Just checked and since that 83.8193.23 build I was screeching about, they've put out two new patches. Must've finally kidnapped an Owlcat developer, well done! Anyway, that POST bug seems to be sorted and they've been tinkering with the new font, it had been (justly) catching a lot of heat on their own forums.

Now we need to find out what new bugs they introduced fixing these. Beamdog patching is like a literal popamole game.

Cuckdog bug fixing:
Dev 1: We have a bug. We can fix this by creating a flag that will tell the game that we have this condition.
Dev 2: Nice! Put it in Register 4.
Dev 1: We don't know what Register 4 does.
Dev 2: We don't know how to modify the engine to make a completely new register, so just dump it there!
Dev 1: OK. Fine.
*2 weeks later*
Dev 1: We have another bug...

 

[KafkaBot]

Serious question: how bad is this Enhanced Edition? As disastrous as the Baldur's Gates or is it rather acceptable, like their version of Icewind Dale? I ask because I never played the first Neverwinter Nights (or the second one, for that matter; I went straight to MOTB) and this is being sold for peanuts right now. Since purchase adds both the original and the Enhanced Edition to my GOG library, I've been wondering which version I should use for my first playthrough of this.