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Eternity Pillars of Eternity + The White March Expansion Thread
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Diggfinger
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chuft
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Is this the Stellaris thread?
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I really don't understand why some people hate Defiance Bay. It's a decently fun city IMO. And it certainly has better pacing than Athkatla (though that isn't an achievement).
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It's primarily how boring the factions are.
Nothing's happening there until something happens but then you're asked to immediately leave and when you come back it has all settled.
Lacrymas
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It's not so much hate as much as feeling it's unnecessary and grinds the game to a halt. Like MajorMace said, nothing of importance is happening there and the only thing of note is swept under the rug. The zombie quarter could've been a fun ...zombie quarter, but it was nothing. It also kind of feels small in a way. Everything is next to each other and it's weird. You have a murder theater happening 50 meters from a secret cult gathering, which happens to take place right next to a lich-like bloke. There's more stuff happening in the harbor than all the other parts of the city combined. The pacing is weird in the sense it's awkwardly situated in the main story. It's like if Baldur's Gate were exactly after meeting Khalid and Jaheira, and after you are done with that you go to Nashkel and Cloakwood.
Unity could be responsible for how small the city is, in addition to the whole game being unfinished/too big for its own good. The maps are claustrophobically small and even then the content is spaced lopsidedly.
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Defiance Bay didn't work for me either (and under no circumstances would I put it in the same sentence with Athkatla). Not in the sense that DB shouldn't exist necessarily, but it needed a lot more work to be exciting. It was kinda boring, and now I do not remember almost anything about it (other than the tower at the port).
Luckmann
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Uhm..
Trashos
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If English works the same way as Greek, then I put them in the same period, not in the same sentence. Not sure if the terms follow the same rules in English, though.
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Central hubs loaded with boring fetch quests, or quests that have you run from one area to the next are a cancer and should be removed from crpg's. The atrocities against gamers are twofold when your game has load screens every 20 seconds that are as long as traversing the tiny areas themselves. And only get longer the longer you play.
Luckmann
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Might be a translation misunderstanding on your part, because all of that is definitely one sentence, and it would be in Greek too, or it would not be translated into "sentence". I could work it out more specifically, but I fucking hate grammar and will be a horrible English teacher because of it.
Trashos
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In Greek that was most definitely one period and two sentences. A period can consist of many sentences (in Greek, right? Not sure about English). Two verbs = 2 sentences, all within one period. Most Greeks may confuse the 2 in everyday language, but it is only because they do not know what they are talking about.
EDIT: I translate
sentence -> πρόταση (protasi)
period -> περίοδος (periodos, doh!)
EDIT: I translate
sentence -> πρόταση (protasi)
period -> περίοδος (periodos, doh!)
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Heroic Liberator
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I guess that the proper terms would be sentence for Greek 'periodos' and clause for Greek 'protasi'.
"One traditional scheme for classifying English sentences is by clause structure, the number and types of clauses in the sentence with finite verbs.
"One traditional scheme for classifying English sentences is by clause structure, the number and types of clauses in the sentence with finite verbs.
- A simple sentence consists of a single independent clause with no dependent clauses.
- A compound sentence consists of multiple independent clauses with no dependent clauses. These clauses are joined together using conjunctions, punctuation, or both.
- A complex sentence consists of one independent clause and at least one dependent clause.
- A compound–complex sentence (or complex–compound sentence) consists of multiple independent clauses, at least one of which has at least one dependent clause."
If you still haven't bought this game, the definitive edition (that comes with both DLCs) is free on the Epic Store for a week:
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/free-games
It's a p. good deal (unless you REALLY want to give all your data only to the zuck).
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/free-games
It's a p. good deal (unless you REALLY want to give all your data only to the zuck).
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Considering the subject matter the thread can only improve.
Tenebris
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As an added bonus Deadfire isn't included!
God, I forgot how infuriating this game is from the very beginning. Basically you are not allowed to roleplay a character who is not a complete retard.
You find yourself surrounded by people who distrust foreigners and magic that messes with souls, and who show no hesitation in hanging those whom they don't like, and your only option to progress through the dialogue is to tell them either:
"Hi, I just survived a cursed magic wind that messes with people's souls"
or
"Hi, I just witnessed a strange and obscure ceremony near some ruins"
What the fuck.
Then you meet your first companion, and the game finally gives you the chance to lie low and keep your cards to yourself:
But it turns out that the game is the one who is lying, because in the very next dialogue you are forced to explain in detail what happened to you:
I mean, come on.
You find yourself surrounded by people who distrust foreigners and magic that messes with souls, and who show no hesitation in hanging those whom they don't like, and your only option to progress through the dialogue is to tell them either:
"Hi, I just survived a cursed magic wind that messes with people's souls"
or
"Hi, I just witnessed a strange and obscure ceremony near some ruins"
What the fuck.
Then you meet your first companion, and the game finally gives you the chance to lie low and keep your cards to yourself:
But it turns out that the game is the one who is lying, because in the very next dialogue you are forced to explain in detail what happened to you:
I mean, come on.
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