Eternity Pillars of Eternity + The White March Expansion Thread

[pomenitul]

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Nigga ornamentation serves no purpose other than ornamentation.

 

[NJClaw]

pomenitul, I see you've renounced the way of words. I salute you.

 

[TedNugent]

I don't understand the paladin thing. Supposedly they were Charlemagne's bodyguards, and D&D basically took the name and invented the class whole cloth?

This is a new IP, I don't see why it needs to adhere to D&D lore when the name didn't make any sense in the first place, they just probably thought it sounded cool.

 

[Orud]

It has simply boiled down to "it's not the AD&D 1st/2nd edition Paladin" at this point.

 

[TedNugent]

The first time I saw a Paladin it was in Warcraft 2. I asked what God it worshipped and it said

Ah, I remember when paladins in Warcraft weren't faggots.

World of Warcraft Warcraft 3 was gay though.

Fixed tfy

 

[Lacrymas]

Let's just be honest with ourselves and say everything was and is gay.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Paladins peaked with WC 2?

 

[Lyric Suite]

I don't understand the paladin thing. Supposedly they were Charlemagne's bodyguards, and D&D basically took the name and invented the class whole cloth?

This is a new IP, I don't see why it needs to adhere to D&D lore when the name didn't make any sense in the first place, they just probably thought it sounded cool.

Paladins from D&D come from this brah:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Hearts_and_Three_Lions

The Song of Roland basically determined the conception of the medieval knight for subsequent generations up until today and blurring the Paladins of Charlemagne with the Crusaders is not such a wierd thing to do, since there's actually a continuation between them (Charlemagne, in case anybody forgot, was a Christian King and his Paladins inspired the ethos of all later knights).

 

[Lyric Suite]

Let's just be honest with ourselves and say everything was and is gay.

Speaking of not gay Paladins:

 

[pomenitul]

 

[Orud]

Paladins peaked with WC 2?

Paladins peaked in Hexen2

 

[Grunker]

Let's just be honest with ourselves and say everything was and is gay.

Speaking of not gay Paladins:

Everything is shit compared to iwd portraits. Wrote an entire rant about modern fantasy art in my Pillars review because it peaked at IWD and since then it's just been terrible crap

 

[pomenitul]

You are 100% correct, but PoE and Deadfire are both above par in this regard.

 

[Pink Eye]

Are you geeks STILL arguing over this? I can't believe you all haven't exhausted yourselves.

 

[Grunker]

no breaks on the codex' autism train

 

[TedNugent]

Let's just be honest with ourselves and say everything was and is gay.

Speaking of not gay Paladins:

This is a good reminder of why fantasy armor is retarded, ugly as sin and ridiculous. Absolutely nothing beats Gothic/Renaissance full plate. Functional and aesthetically beautiful.

Everything below the elbows looks kind of weird on this set, though.

Out of proportion, and those greaves look weird.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Can't have everything. Actual knights also weren't as fat as that guy is.

 

[pomenitul]

Really, though, the PoEs' overall art style is one of their greatest assets, which matters if you're an atmospherefag (and I undoubtedly am). The comparatively more infantile KM, WotR and – God forbid – D:OS's are sadly lacking in this department. More contemporary CRPGs need to embrace a painterly aesthetic. If I'm going to be staring at a screen for hours, I want the visuals to be evocative.

 

[Lacrymas]

3D visuals are more expensive to pull off, so there's always the temptation to go more ...stylized like the Pathfinders and D:OSes. Spellforce 3 is the only 3D "isometric" game I've seen that manages evocative and gorgeous maps.

 

[pomenitul]

Is it any good, gameplay-wise? I've been meaning to check it out for a while now.

 

[Lacrymas]

Is it any good, gameplay-wise? I've been meaning to check it out for a while now.

That is a very complicated question. Let's say that it's good enough for a playthrough, but not good enough to become an E-sport like the devs wanted. I actually wrote a short review of it (and all other Spellforces) for felipepepe's RPG book.

 

[TedNugent]

There's a lot to be said for immersion, and I think the effective representation of period weapons and armor always helps. They are functional, and fit properly.

Surprisingly, I also think they did a good job when it comes to the Engwithan architecture and making it actually seem like it's a real device. I'll get back to it later, but that's one reason I quite enjoyed Heritage Hill.

For me, prerendered graphics have a few advantages, one is they are hardware agnostic, they are timeless and scale excellently with display resolution, which really makes older games like Baldurs Gate, Planescape etc still look beautiful whereas 3D games look like dogshit. Then, they have the ability to give the artists free reign to create an accurate rendition from the sketches without having an outrageous budget. It also allows them to dedicate more computing resources to animating and rendering those things that are not pre-rendered.

I will say, both this game and Numenera are running much better and looking much better than expected on my dated Microshit Surface that I'm stuck with at the moment.

By contrast, Neverwinter Nights looks absolutely hideous. I feel rather grateful that these Infinity Engine games have held up so well visually despite the age.

 

[Lacrymas]

By contrast, Neverwinter Nights looks absolutely hideous.

NWN is endlessly charming and unique in terms of graphics. I'd take it over 99.9% of contemporary 3D games.

 

[Grunker]

By contrast, Neverwinter Nights looks absolutely hideous.

NWN is endlessly charming and unique in terms of graphics

You truly are like a reverse compass in terms of taste