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Bard's Tale The Bard's Tale IV: Barrows Deep - Director's Cut
- Thread starter Infinitron
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Jinn
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Couple things I've noticed about combat that make it a little more fun than I initially thought.
-There are actually % chances of landing and receiving critical hits.
-Enemies (and presumably players?) can deal friendly fire if their allies are in the way of a 2 or 3 grid-line attack.
-There are instances where there will be several consecutive waves of encounters - so you finish a battle, and are immediately thrown into the next one if there are more enemies in the direct vicinity.
-By forcing enemies to move, you are essentially causing them to lose an action.
-Powerful abilities require a period of focus to pull off, which can be interrupted from either side by a mental damage attack as opposed to a physical damage attack.
I can see how some of these factors could make larger scale battles much more interesting.
-There are actually % chances of landing and receiving critical hits.
-Enemies (and presumably players?) can deal friendly fire if their allies are in the way of a 2 or 3 grid-line attack.
-There are instances where there will be several consecutive waves of encounters - so you finish a battle, and are immediately thrown into the next one if there are more enemies in the direct vicinity.
-By forcing enemies to move, you are essentially causing them to lose an action.
-Powerful abilities require a period of focus to pull off, which can be interrupted from either side by a mental damage attack as opposed to a physical damage attack.
I can see how some of these factors could make larger scale battles much more interesting.
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FeelTheRads
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... I'll try to ignore all the bugs and glitches you guys have encountered. It's all peanuts. I'll now start to read the manual and fantasize about my future party...
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... opens up manual
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did the same, laughed so hard
Bohr
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Shocking. You'll never see that sort of sloppiness in the Grimoire manual.
I don't know about the game itself, I haven't played it. Though the oversimplified mechanics sound terrible. I don't care about the performance much, it will be patched to a reasonable state sooner or later and I'm not in a hurry, i'll play it when it's ready. However, this thread in the last 20 or so pages, delivers! We got the usual suspects who are shilling, being retards, criticizing for all the wrong reasons ("game doesn't run 120+fps, hurr, durr"), etc... Fun thread, would play again.
I thought it was sheer nostalgia for a long time, but it can inform level design and interaction as well. In grid it's much easier for the "negative space" to become visible to the player, as in "Well I took 8 steps that way but only 3 steps this way, is there a hidden room between there?"
It's there to establish the first act villains and the context of the opening story arc. I get that some folks just want tits and explosions but they were going for actual storytelling here.
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V_K
Arcane
In a way that, from the description, sounds totally unsuitable for interactive media.
dungeon siege 1 beginning with actual storytelling where random farmer approaches you and dies saying "THE KRUG ARE ATTACKING" is better at actual storytelling than the garbage beginning of bard's tale 4
The oversimplification is overblown. Chardev is bad, sadly, everything else is fine.
As for the thread, I see people falling in two camps - those who can't stand the game and those who have played it.
Some people who actually played the game also brought that point, you just chose to ignore that fact, no surprise here. Confirmation bias is a bitch.
Having said that, I plan to wait a few patches before not removing it from inventory and seeing for myself. Or at the very least to wait for detailed reviews made by prestigious members of the Codex.
For the time being this thread brings enough entertainment as it is.
Having said that, I plan to wait a few patches before not removing it from inventory and seeing for myself. Or at the very least to wait for detailed reviews made by prestigious members of the Codex.
For the time being this thread brings enough entertainment as it is.
you know what time it is
Arcane
Why Ziets is still with them tho, what a waste.
Lord_Potato
Arcane
Yes, I am reading this thread with pure enjoyment, even though BT4 is propably not a game for me (not a fan of blobbers).
But all these people complaining about frames per second and graphical settings...
I thought being a graphics whore was despised on the Codex? I guess not when it comes to InXile
Theldaran
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The Nard's Tail IV: Balls Deep.
Zep--
Turd's Tale
What point? Oversimplification? Um, I have brought up the point too but apparently "you just chose to ignore that fact, no surprise here. Confirmation bias is a bitch".
IHaveHugeNick
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Chess has no hit chance, your attacks always land, WTF is this oversimplified game for console retards.
V_K
Arcane
This thread made me want to replay Lords of Xulima. If only I had 600 hours to spare.
I thought it was weird at first too when I played the beta. Then a few hours in it began to gel with other events in the game. It's not as arbitrary as it first appears.
hobo guy left the party and stole my fucking boots 
V_K
Arcane
Don't be sad, your other guys probably didn't have the skill to wear them anyway.hobo guy left the party and stole my fucking boots
Darth Canoli
Arcane
... I'll try to ignore all the bugs and glitches you guys have encountered. It's all peanuts. I'll now start to read the manual and fantasize about my future party...
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... opens up manual
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Where did the intern whom was in charge of the manual disappear ?
Oh, wait, was the intern in charge of the whole game ?
hobo guy left the party and stole my fucking boots
You can't trust anyone these days ...
Mortmal
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Infinitron's job is not to play games,he hates that, especially RPGS ,with an average of 0.1 hours spent on the best one. Its to inform us about the horrors of this world.
Don't be sad, your other guys probably didn't have the skill to wear them anyway.hobo guy left the party and stole my fucking boots
actually true
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