The Outer Worlds Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Diggfinger]

I'm not sure it's worth buying on any of the digital stores if a cheap subscription service is available. It's not like you own any of the games you buy on them, they can yank them on a whim and if they go out of business you're SoL.

(GoG is a qualified exception as their games are genuinely DRM-free, so you can actually make backups and run them without fuss.)

I dislike relying long term on subscription services. No guarantee it won't end up like Netflix with things being removed randomly due to licensing chicanery.

I also like things in one place and most of my collection is on Steam.

Think I'll buy on EPIC for now, then in a year or so on Steam (hopefully) GOG when it becomes available...

good consumer, buy the product twice
don't forget to buy it again when the new and improved enhanced edition comes out

Exactly.

As you know, the setting of Halcyon revolves around mass corporations taking control over people's lives in a far-off future.

So, I'm actually LARP'ing the game before it's even even released by indulging in hyper-consumerism myself!
Brilliant, right? Makes me even more stoked for this gem and supports teh developers as well.
Beam me up, Tim and Leon!!

 

[Riddler]

Comparing Disco to Outer Worlds its obvious the old guard should just give up and give way to young blood. Old timers dont have it in them any more, their brains cant produce an iota of originality, just rehash after rehash.
It concerns all these old developers with their abysmal output driven on nostalgia.

Tim and Leonard, you are already legends, just take a well deserved retirement and dont release Outer World before its too late.

It's not them, it's capitalism. Make a name for yourself and they'll push you to do the same thing over and over again. Eventually it grinds you down. First you stop bothering to present any new ideas because you know they'll get shot down, then you stop even bothering to have them. You gotta live after all.

But that is exactly what isn't happening. For most genres you do have FIFA or Mario but for Western RPGs, not so much. Instead of making something similar to their previous hit game they try to "broaden the appeal" and inevitably start making shit.

We would only be so lucky if they had continued to make the same thing over and over again... Now they are old and tired, having spent most of their productive creative years churning out shit.

 

[RepHope]

Comparing Disco to Outer Worlds its obvious the old guard should just give up and give way to young blood. Old timers dont have it in them any more, their brains cant produce an iota of originality, just rehash after rehash.
It concerns all these old developers with their abysmal output driven on nostalgia.

Tim and Leonard, you are already legends, just take a well deserved retirement and dont release Outer World before its too late.

It's not them, it's capitalism. Make a name for yourself and they'll push you to do the same thing over and over again. Eventually it grinds you down. First you stop bothering to present any new ideas because you know they'll get shot down, then you stop even bothering to have them. You gotta live after all.

But that is exactly what isn't happening. For most genres you do have FIFA or Mario but for Western RPGs, not so much. Instead of making something similar to their previous hit game they try to "broaden the appeal" and inevitably start making shit.

We would only be so lucky if they had continued to make the same thing over and over again... Now they are old and tired, having spent most of their productive creative years churning out shit.

Most of them aren’t trying to copy their old games it’s true, but they are trying to copy Skyrim and Witcher 3 to get that $$$$

 

[Riddler]

Comparing Disco to Outer Worlds its obvious the old guard should just give up and give way to young blood. Old timers dont have it in them any more, their brains cant produce an iota of originality, just rehash after rehash.
It concerns all these old developers with their abysmal output driven on nostalgia.

Tim and Leonard, you are already legends, just take a well deserved retirement and dont release Outer World before its too late.

It's not them, it's capitalism. Make a name for yourself and they'll push you to do the same thing over and over again. Eventually it grinds you down. First you stop bothering to present any new ideas because you know they'll get shot down, then you stop even bothering to have them. You gotta live after all.

But that is exactly what isn't happening. For most genres you do have FIFA or Mario but for Western RPGs, not so much. Instead of making something similar to their previous hit game they try to "broaden the appeal" and inevitably start making shit.

We would only be so lucky if they had continued to make the same thing over and over again... Now they are old and tired, having spent most of their productive creative years churning out shit.

Most of them aren’t trying to copy their old games it’s true, but they are trying to copy Skyrim and Witcher 3 to get that $$$$

Yes, and that is a retarded idea.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

But that is exactly what isn't happening. For most genres you do have FIFA or Mario but for Western RPGs, not so much. Instead of making something similar to their previous hit game they try to "broaden the appeal" and inevitably start making shit.

Simple , if you can make simpler that appeal to more people that translate into more money , it's worth sacrificie those ''boring numbers , boring CnC system or that content 0000,1% of people gonna actually see''. People don't want meaningful choice and conclusive endings , they want to play games forever this is very clear.
Also like the other guy mentioned , it's all about copying what's making sucess.
DA:I was made into a open worlds with fetch-quests because of Skyrim , AC: Origins and Odyssey are literaly copies of the Witcher 3. Fallout 4 is the travesty that was because Skyrim , Fallout 76 exist because shit like Destiny sell millons.
At least TOW is trying to copy FNV , a good game.

 

[Riddler]

But that is exactly what isn't happening. For most genres you do have FIFA or Mario but for Western RPGs, not so much. Instead of making something similar to their previous hit game they try to "broaden the appeal" and inevitably start making shit.

Simple , if you can make simpler that appeal to more people that translate into more money , it's worth sacrificie those ''boring numbers , boring CnC system or that content 0000,1% of people gonna actually see''. People don't want meaningful choice and conclusive endings , they want to play games forever this is very clear.
Also like the other guy mentioned , it's all about copying what's making sucess.
DA:I was made into a open worlds with fetch-quests because of Skyrim , AC: Origins and Odyssey are literaly copies of the Witcher 3. Fallout 4 is the travesty that was because Skyrim , Fallout 76 exist because shit like Destiny sell millons.
At least TOW is trying to copy FNV , a good game.

 

[vortex]

Comparing Disco to Outer Worlds its obvious the old guard should just give up and give way to young blood. Old timers dont have it in them any more, their brains cant produce an iota of originality, just rehash after rehash.
It concerns all these old developers with their abysmal output driven on nostalgia.

Tim and Leonard, you are already legends, just take a well deserved retirement and dont release Outer World before its too late.

Disagree. Game is a team effort. Boyarsky said that TOW is accumulation of older ideas and new ones, the next-gen of a throwback RPG. The game will feel retro.
I don't know why it should be discouraged as such. If they would have more money they could have add multiplayer.

I don't think that pioneer developers should retire. They can make great games even for new generation of players if they have good dev team around them.

 

[Quillon]

Instead of making something similar to their previous hit game they try to "broaden the appeal" and inevitably start making shit.

We would only be so lucky if they had continued to make the same thing over and over again... Now they are old and tired, having spent most of their productive creative years churning out shit.

I think you are old and tired, they are making something similar to their(& Obs') previously hit game/s. "If you like the style and humor of Fallout and Arcanum, you are gonna like this game" - Tim Cain. Also there is a lot of Tim Cain in this game apparently :D Plus its Leonard's dreeeaaam gaaaaamee, yaaaay!

It'll be amusing to see the guys shitting on the game atm posting about fun shit happening in the game in a month's time.

 

[Riddler]

I don't think that pioneer developers should retire. They can make great games even for new generation of players if they have good dev team around them.

We are lucky they have surrounded themselves with such fierce writers then!

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

So apparently people who pay $60 for a game are fiercely resisting big evil corporations, while people who pay $1 for the same game are sucking corporate dick.

This is clearly entirely logical and not at all retarded.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

https://twitter.com/OuterWorlds/status/1179199667545837568
Even The Outer Worlds PR denies being a EGS exclusive. Obsidian and being fucked up by Feargus their publisher. Name a more iconic duo

 

[luj1]

It'll be amusing to see the guys shitting on the game atm posting about fun shit happening in the game in a month's time.

By "fun shit" expect ridicule in the vein of ME: Andromeda and a tsunami of memes. This behavior will go on for a couple of months, after which the game will fade into nothingness.

 

[Ismaul]

So apparently people who pay $60 for a game are fiercely resisting big evil corporations, while people who pay $1 for the same game are sucking corporate dick.

This is clearly entirely logical and not at all retarded.

Both aren't resisting the dick. But some only accept to suck it, while others take it balls-deep in the ass.

Me, I'd rather sail the seas. Sure we're butt pirates but at least we're not exclusive.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Me, I'd rather sail the seas. Sure we're butt pirates but at least we're not exclusive.

I have 0 patience for game industry nonsense nowadays. Game is a roadmap to nowhere? I pirate. Game has micro-transactions? I'll pirate. Game is infected with denuvo malware? Same deal. Game is a complete product out the door without DLC plans, DRM, MTX, etc etc. Sure i'll buy.

Fortuitously enough, this always automatically means my money goes towards middle-market developers (where i want it to go) rather than ultra dark assholes, like EA and Activision. It's a win-win really...

 

[vortex]

So apparently people who pay $60 for a game are fiercely resisting big evil corporations, while people who pay $1 for the same game are sucking corporate dick.

You've described corporate madness of Outer worlds in just one sentence.

 

[fantadomat]

 

[Danikas]

 

[fantadomat]

"If you like the style and humor of Fallout and Arcanum, you are gonna like this game"

Arcanum and humour.....

The fuck am i reading??? The game was all about dark shit like genocide,mass sex slavery and brutal rape,race cleansing and fucking war. I don't remember one fucking funny thing in the game. Fuck,your first side quest is about priest punishing a bunch of thieves that killed his whole family,with an endless agony. And that is why it is so memorable!

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Me, I'd rather sail the seas. Sure we're butt pirates but at least we're not exclusive.

I have 0 patience for game industry nonsense nowadays. Game is a roadmap to nowhere? I pirate. Game has micro-transactions? I'll pirate. Game is infected with denuvo malware? Same deal. Game is a complete product out the door without DLC plans, DRM, MTX, etc etc. Sure i'll buy.

Fortuitously enough, it always automatically mean my money goes towards middle-market developers (where i want it to go) rather than ultra dark assholes, like EA and Activision. It's a win-win really...

There's nothing inherently wrong with DLC that's actual content. Expansion packs are great.
The problem has always been shit like day zero DLC, horse armor, etc.,

 

[Zombra]

Me, I'd rather sail the seas. Sure we're butt pirates but at least we're not exclusive.

I have 0 patience for game industry nonsense nowadays. Game is a roadmap to nowhere? I pirate. Game has micro-transactions? I'll pirate. Game is infected with denuvo malware? Same deal. Game is a complete product out the door without DLC plans, DRM, MTX, etc etc. Sure i'll buy.
Fortuitously enough, this always automatically means my money goes towards middle-market developers (where i want it to go) rather than ultra dark assholes, like EA and Activision. It's a win-win really...

Are there honestly not enough games you like that you have to pirate a million ones you hate? You realize that just by playing these bad games, you're still supporting them, right? Stop eating shit.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Are there honestly not enough games you like that you have to pirate a million ones you hate? You realize that just by playing these bad games, you're still supporting them, right? Stop eating shit.

Don't confuse your shitty mouth with mine. If you think I'm supporting games when i pirate them you must be touched in the asshole. Furthermore, don't make the assumption that i pirate games that i hate. I pirate games when i can clearly see the publisher who'd benefit from my money is the reason the gaming industry is declining.

 

[Prime Junta]

Oh man these self-justifications for piracy, just admit that you’re a cheap fuck and don’t try to pretend you’re fighting The Man or The Decline or whatever by torrenting the latest AAA pap they’re spoon-feeding you.

(I have no sympathy for people pirating indies though. That’s stealing from the poor, which makes you almost as bad as a capitalist.)

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

Piracy is wack. Buy the games.

 

[Parabalus]

Oh man these self-justifications for piracy, just admit that you’re a cheap fuck and don’t try to pretend you’re fighting The Man or The Decline or whatever by torrenting the latest AAA pap they’re spoon-feeding you.

(I have no sympathy for people pirating indies though. That’s stealing from the poor, which makes you almost as bad as a capitalist.)

Probably a bit different with your Nordic wages vs poors.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Oh man these self-justifications for piracy, just admit that you’re a cheap fuck and don’t try to pretend you’re fighting The Man or The Decline or whatever by torrenting the latest AAA pap they’re spoon-feeding you.

No it sounds like you are projecting yourself. Considering how anal you are about calling out people as cheap fucks, you must have quite a complex going on in your head. In contrast not only have I spent more than a thousand dollars in game purchases this year alone, i have also invested in several projects through Fig these past five years. I actively use my money to benefit the game industry in the direction i prefer, which is supporting devs who make complete, no-bullshit products, and I will happily pirate games published by cancers such as EA, Activision, etc etc. I don't say "I fight the man" by pirating AAA games, but i don't benefit them either. That's good enough for me.