Wasteland The Wasteland 2 Beta Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Zetor]

Which is why I said this is more like Wizardry 7 -> Wizardry 8 instead of Fallout 2 -> Fallout 3.

In Wiz7 you had those random encounters with 5 groups of 9x jelly stingers (or red pirannhas, or eleventy billion high-end rattkin / gorn / munk... etc) where - if your party was strong enough - you could just select a mass-damage spell on your mage, hold down enter, and watch the carnage. Or even just hold down enter and watch them all die without being able to hurt your frontline of -13 AC juggernauts.

Now, in Wiz8, every battle was a tactical challenge (except maybe near the end if you ventured into lower-level zones). You had to be careful with positioning and could only do the 'autoattack enemy to death' thing if you made sure to control the battlefield first. To me, this was a lot more fun, though I certainly appreciated mindlessly mowing through hordes of enemies in W7, too.

In Wasteland 2 I can't really call it one way or the other, considering they're still tweaking the core of the game; it remains to be seen whether the actual execution is going to be worth a damn.

 

[Lhynn]

You know, this post makes you sound like Roguey made an alt for Wasteland/Fargo...

A man gotta earn his stripes.

 

[Gord]

Gregz, so you're mostly interested in a game that plays itself without your input and results in the increase of some numbers?
Sure sounds like lots of fun!

 

[I_am_Ian]

You know, this post makes you sound like Roguey made an alt for Wasteland/Fargo...

Nah, my posts are tinged with bitterness and/or smugness.

More like tinged with cuntiness.

 

[Excidium]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZIVVVVCQAAXs-y.png:large

Jesus Christ dude spoiler that shit.

My eyes

 

[Gregz]

Jesus Christ dude spoiler that shit.

My eyes

Done, you whiner. /supreme jerk

Gregz, so you're mostly interested in a game that plays itself without your input and results in the increase of some numbers?
Sure sounds like lots of fun!

Well, it's hard to explain. I enjoy playing games that can be beaten in more than one way, puzzles that can be approached from different angles, and I don't mean programmer designed angles either. Back in the day (before most of you were alive), there was a thing called hacking, which involved finding loopholes in systems...whether it was a payphone, or a UNIX prompt, or a game. You've seen Wargames, so you know what I'm talking about, if you haven't, see it. Anyway, I used to really get a thrill out of 'outsmarting' the game designers, finding bugs, exploits and hacking my way around a game to really kick the shit out of it.

Now, this was usually discovered on a 2nd or 3rd playthrough, so there was no risk of ruining the 'intended experience', but after that playthrough, you want to try something new because you love the game you just beat, and want to play it again from a different angle, like say challenging yourself to making a party of supreme jerks, i.e. reaching max level 255. If you play Wasteland 'normally', it's a physically impossible task. If you know how to program macros, and have found a bug (within the game, not some console cheat bullshit), it may just be possible. Exploring such things was a lot of fun, and many of the older games could be broken like this (Might and Magic 2 comes to mind). So, yeah, it's unorthodox but I think a lot of people have done this, and have enjoyed doing it, I know I have.

 

[Decado]

Any game with aimed shots is a Fallout clone, makes awesome sense to me.

 

[sea]

In Wasteland you could quick-roll a trash mob set for loot + xp if you want to, and set macros to generate and devour packs of mobs for hours at a time over and over and over XP'ing all the way to a party of supreme jerks (level 255?). Same with The Bard's Tale which used the same engine (4x99 berserkers fight), I miss being able to do that stuff.

One wonders why, if the combat can be so easily cheesed, what the point of it even is.

 

[Excidium]

In Wasteland you could quick-roll a trash mob set for loot + xp if you want to, and set macros to generate and devour packs of mobs for hours at a time over and over and over XP'ing all the way to a party of supreme jerks (level 255?). Same with The Bard's Tale which used the same engine (4x99 berserkers fight), I miss being able to do that stuff.

One wonders why, if the combat can be so easily cheesed, what the point of it even is.

Artificially lenghtening the game.

 

[Zombra]

Funny whining about health regeneration, top down (gone? was it ever in?) and lists, like these are what made W1 but nothing about the combat system. Well, except the aimed shots, those will definitely un-wasteland.
Basically, what I'm saying is that they should at least be consistent. It should have been game over for them when it was obvious that the game won't have the same combat system, which was pretty much the best thing about W1.

Hey, if I had ever thought there was a chance for a phase-based system, I would have lobbied for it. At this point there's no way for it to happen without rebuilding the whole game pretty much from scratch ... so that ship has sailed. Instead, I choose to whine about things that can still be changed.

 

[hiver]

Modders will fix it.

 

[DreadMessiah]

If only the same could be said of you.

 

[Jaesun]

you have these wildly different approaches

That is the most tactfully best description I have ever read. EVAR.

Mr. Fargo

He is such a fucking Master at this.

 

[Brother None]

The update's uploading now. Right close!

 

[Infinitron]

3.3 GBs. Exit Steam and restart if you're not getting it.

 

[undecaf]

I got a 136.6MB update some 10 minutes ago. What did that do?

 

[Daedalos]

 

[Brother None]

I got a 136.6MB update some 10 minutes ago. What did that do?

That was just a new distributal. The update is 3.3 GB and should be downloading now (restart Steam to force, as Infinitron said)

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

So, tonight we will know how will it shape up finally. 1 month of work after reading through tons of feedback and having many bugs killed should be representative of what inXile would be able to achieve during next 3 months. Hope they will succeed.

 

[undecaf]

I got a 136.6MB update some 10 minutes ago. What did that do?

That was just a new distributal. The update is 3.3 GB and should be downloading now (restart Steam to force, as Infinitron said)

It started downloading on it's own shortly after Infini told how big it was. I was just curious because the game wouldn't start after the small one.

 

[Ulminati]

It's shit.

 

[Infinitron]

It's shit.

Quiet, you.

 

[Surf Solar]

It's live now, yeah

lol they reiterated the UI again?

 

[felipepepe]

3.3 GB?

Damn, thridworldia internet and early access updates aren't a good combination...

 

[hiver]

At leats yours isnt turning on and off depending on the direction of the wind.