KickStarter Vampire Syndicate: Gangs of MoonFall

[V_K]

Is this new title better than the old one?

I protest the removal of beefcake!

EDIT: I can't read, the beefcake one is the new one. Ok, then

 

[Mauman]

Well, so far, the only thing I've learned about this game is that writers/journalists are morons

Vampires (with clans), politics, crime combos have been done many, MANY times. Saying WoD has the sole rights to it is beyond dumb.

In all seriousness though, I'm interested. I'll follow this.

 

[Delterius]

Well, so far, the only thing I've learned about this game is that writers/journalists are morons

Vampires (with clans), politics, crime combos have been done many, MANY times. Saying WoD has the sole rights to it is beyond dumb.

In all seriousness though, I'm interested. I'll follow this.

you'll have to pry my original characters (vladimir soprano and his half brother luigi) from the cold dead hands of my IP attorney

 

[Roguey]

Old title graphic makes it look like it's a title exclusively for the lads.

New title graphic makes it look like it's for lads and homos/women. Very romance-novel looking. If that's your goal, then it's fine.

 

[cherry blossom]

I came to this thread because of cyberpunk, vampire and isometric in the title. Ended up ignoring Dixon or whatever their name was.

Is this new title better than the old one?

New:

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Old:

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The bigger problem is the title itself. "Vampire Gangs of something" is a shovelware title. I haven't quite figured out if shovelware is what you actually do and if you are ok with it but that's how the title sounds.

 

[Abu Antar]

You should redesign the title, but keep the name if you want. If that popped up in my Steam queue, I would ignore it straight away.

 

[Nortar]

Is this new title better than the old one?

The bigger problem is the title itself. "Vampire Gangs of something" is a shovelware title.

I have to agree, the obscure location pointer makes it sound cheap.
Perhaps you can consider making the title shorter and snappier: V-G

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[Storyfag]

I came to this thread because of cyberpunk, vampire and isometric in the title. Ended up ignoring Dixon or whatever their name was.

Kill xirself.

 

[Tyranicon]

New title graphic makes it look like it's for lads and homos/women. Very romance-novel looking. If that's your goal, then it's fine.

I totally know where you're coming from, but Conan-style epic covers with a damsel clutching their leg/feet/trunk penis is just the height of masculinity for me. I wish modern fantasy RPGs were like this.

Gaze upon this glory of old (some very mild NSFW because it's classy):

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This kind of style inspired a lot of video game art but don't usually make it to the covers (at least, not anymore) because of modern sensibilities.

Even Fallout got in on this with their concept art for (Van Buren, I think? I forget) Glorious.

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Now does it mesh with the cyberpunk setting and goth vampire fashion? Not sure. We'll find out.

The bigger problem is the title itself. "Vampire Gangs of something" is a shovelware title. I haven't quite figured out if shovelware is what you actually do and if you are ok with it but that's how the title sounds.

I have to agree, the obscure location pointer makes it sound cheap.
Perhaps you can consider making the title shorter and snappier: V-G

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So the problem I ran into a long time ago is that not everybody has good taste and illiterates perfectly fine people with a less discerning eye for great titles make up a big part of any paying customer base. Vampire Gangs of MoonFall serves a few purposes. It immediately establishes that it's about vampires, and gangs, and has the location name for further branding. It's incredibly easy to remember, and easy to pass on by word of mouth.

Does it sound like trash? Yeah, probably. But any new game from an unrecognized IP and a small dev is bound to be met by scrutiny. Not the least an overly ambitious sex game that fills a niche that's long been starved for content.

I can't promise that the game won't be crap, all I can promise is genuine effort. And I won't lie about my goals, which are kind of trollish in nature. AAA (specially RPGs) have declined so much in recent years, that I want to drag the industry kicking and screaming to my game, press their faces into it and say "Look what one man can do, in a cave, with a box of scraps. And yeah, it's a fucking porn game too."

And money. Give me money please. Money me. Money me lots.

 

[Roguey]

I totally know where you're coming from, but Conan-style epic covers with a damsel clutching their leg/feet/trunk penis is just the height of masculinity for me. I wish modern fantasy RPGs were like this.

Gaze upon this glory of old (some very mild NSFW because it's classy):

The difference is that those guys look rugged, whereas your guy looks smooth and slightly-feminine in a way that appeals to gay male/straight female sensibilities.

 

[Pink Eye]

I can't promise that the game won't be crap, all I can promise is genuine effort.

Awww. That makes my heart melt. I can just pinch your cheeks!

 

[ironmask]

1+ hr long "RPG" - took two months to make
10+ hr long linear RPG with limited C&C and environment - took one year to make
50++ hr non-linear RPG with lots of content - will probably be 2.5 years in total dev time when finished

What are the names of those games?

 

[GrafvonMoltke]

Will I be able to set my character's boob size?

 

[Tyranicon]

The difference is that those guys look rugged, whereas your guy looks smooth and slightly-feminine in a way that appeals to gay male/straight female sensibilities.

Hmm, that might be due to the Fabio hair and lack of body hair. We also did a version with dirt/blood but it didn't come out as we liked. I'll probably tinker with it more.

Who does your art, sorry if you have answered this question. Its excellent and covers the aesthetics nicely

My artist is another gamedev I've been working with for a while. She's the one doing all the groundwork and foundational stuff now as I finish up my current project (Memoirs). I'll relay the compliments!

What are the names of those games?

With steam links and annotations below. Be warned, they are weebish in aesthetics and I know some of you are allergic.

1+ hr long "RPG" - took two months to make [Link] Not recommended. Very much a "learned how to make baby's first RPGmaker game." Only get it if you loved the other two
10+ hr long linear RPG with limited C&C and environment - took one year to make [Link] It's very linear, but worth a play if you like a focused story and JRPG-style grinding
50++ hr non-linear RPG with lots of content - will probably be 2.5 years in total dev time when finished [Link] More in line with cRPG territory but with anime, my current project

Will I be able to set my character's boob size?

Not sure. Character customization will probably be minimal (character portraits), but I know people are going to ask for more options. Will depend on funding I guess.

You can pick how bad or good at sex you are in character creation. Sex-related stuff only affects sex gameplay.

 

[V_K]

Hmm, that might be due to the Fabio hair and lack of body hair.

Body hair would make him even more gay-appealing.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I'm a professional writer that had to deal with the worst scum of the earth publishers trying to steal my shit. Plagiarizing is very serious business for me. You think I was LARPing? I wasn't. In fact, I was downright being helpful to you and to get you to think through your worldbuilding.

Oh FUCK YEAH! Rhapsody of Fire Rocks!

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I agree with your writing tips from the first page, because clones are boring. Not for your moron-economic reasons.

The Star Wars empire must be bored out if their minds esp during clone wars.


Anyway....

Maybe they're sexual vampires. "I cum to suck da slut. Oh shit! She drank that rod raw." Piercing your snitzel was just the beginning of the trouble. Don't suck vamp tits... you'll become a simp zombie.

 

[Caim]

Will I be able to set my character's boob size?

Not sure. Character customization will probably be minimal (character portraits), but I know people are going to ask for more options. Will depend on funding I guess.

You can pick how bad or good at sex you are in character creation. Sex-related stuff only affects sex gameplay.

Will the portraits be zoomed out enough so that you can see your character's tits? Because if you combine that with the option to add new portraits or alter existing ones miracles can be performed.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

I have no problem with the name TBH. I mean, the whole thing is essentially about the criminal underworld of Moonfall and how it relates to you, law enforcement, and the political class, how you'll climb it, and what choices you'll make along the way. Overall, if you take a look at UNDERWORLD Synonyms: 12 Synonyms & Antonyms for UNDERWORLD | Thesaurus.com, some of the synonyms for underworld are gangland, mob, syndicate, cosa nostra, and anything that denotes crime.

I don't know if there's really a good way to simply state what your game is focusing on other than saying it the way you had. Maybe 'Gangland of Moonfall' and something to denote the supernatural, such as Bloody, Crimson, Cursed, or something like that, but even then it may be playing up the supernatural aspects of it.

Still, finding yourself walking the crimson nightmares of Moonfall's violent underworld, you would probably want to figure out a way to emphasize the supernatural and the technological via the art of the title. If you see Shadowrun, they always have a fantastical Dragon in the shape of the S, but then this techno background matrixy looking shit all over the place. Maybe try something like that - it's blood at the top, but as it gets to the bottom of the letters it becomes digital and fades to 0's and 1's.

 

[Delterius]

Frankly I don't get why it isn't just called Moonfall. It already screams werewolves or vampires or whatever creature of the night you want to talk about.

just make vampire gangs of american township the game's alternate title

 

[Delterius]

whereas your guy looks smooth and slightly-feminine in a way that appeals to gay male/straight female sensibilities.

did you mean 'like a vampire'

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[Major_Blackhart]

Frankly I don't get why it isn't just called Moonfall. It already screams werewolves or vampires or whatever creature of the night you want to talk about.

just make vampire gangs of american township the game's alternate title

Isn't Moonfall the name of the futuristic city he created in his other game?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

If it's meant to be a location, it should be Moonfell anyways. Unless the moon actually fell there, then that's kinda cool.

Another reason for not using -Fall:

Crowfall
Ironfall
Daggerfall
Redfall
Planetfall
Dreamfall
Greedfall
Cryofall
Iris.Fall
Overfall
Dark Fall
Light Fall
Dark Fall 2
Freedom fall
Ardein.Fall
Counter-fall
Moonrise Fall
Aefen Fall
Glare Fall
CrownFall
SkyFall
StarFall
GroundFall
Goldenjar Fall
Infinity Fall
Godfall
Firefall
Shadowrun: Dragonfall
Titanfall
Titanfall 2
Stationfall

plus a bunch of others I'm missing

I get the implication that (for some of these) game devs didn't know the reason things are suffixed with -Fell and thought Fall was interchangeable.

 

[Delterius]

Frankly I don't get why it isn't just called Moonfall. It already screams werewolves or vampires or whatever creature of the night you want to talk about.

just make vampire gangs of american township the game's alternate title

Isn't Moonfall the name of the futuristic city he created in his other game?

I mean, I already assumed that Moonfall was the name of the setting.

 

[Roguey]

did you mean 'like a vampire'

Anne Rice vampire maybe. When I see a muscular tanned guy with a big gun and a cybernetic arm I don't think vampire.