World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Delterius]

You know, for a community of discerning gentlemen and trannies, this thread features surprisngly many degenerates with the attention span of a goldfish, who cannot tell the difference between PnP stuff and CRPG stuff.

tbh if people start quoting v20 art this thread is gonna meltdown

 

[d1r]

You know, for a community of discerning gentlemen and trannies, this thread features surprisngly many degenerates with the attention span of a goldfish, who cannot tell the difference between PnP stuff and CRPG stuff.

tbh if people start quoting v20 art this thread is gonna meltdown

shall we start then?

Spoiler

just kidding

 

[Lacrymas]

Which 3, aside from select Toreador and Ventrue, would you consider wearing, specifically?

You will be graded on your answer.

There aren't 3 outside Toreador and Ventrue, though, lol. And even then, only 1 looks not retarded from Toreador. The first male one from the Tremere is cool. I'd also wear the second male one from Brujah, but not so skintight and ripped jeans, I already have the same combat boots. Maaybe the first one from Brujah as well, but without the awful brass knuckles necklace and cap. Now that I mentioned combat boots, why is everyone wearing combat boots?

 

[Luckmann]

You know, for a community of discerning gentlemen and trannies, this thread features surprisngly many degenerates with the attention span of a goldfish, who cannot tell the difference between PnP stuff and CRPG stuff.

Or, maybe, just maybe, the direction in a PnP developed alongside the CRPG, with the owner of one project owning the other, has some meaning in the general direction taken.

That art is from the fifth edition of Vampire The Masquerade, not from the game.

Well, if original PnP concept art is that bad - i fear to see whats will be in game.

What? That one artist clearly isn't involved in B2.

Which "one" artist?

Spoiler

And more importantly, it is not about any single artist, but the direction they are very deliberately taking things. It doesn't matter if it's the best or worst artist in the world if the direction is shit.

 

[Lacrymas]

Lol @ the amount of mental gymnastics required to think this isn't going to "take inspiration from" the PnP. They've literally said they were designed and developed together.

 

[Delterius]

ya but yall haven't even seen v20 art itt yet

 

[Zombra]

What? That one artist clearly isn't involved in B2.

Which "one" artist?

And more importantly, it is not about any single artist, but the direction they are very deliberately taking things. It doesn't matter if it's the best or worst artist in the world if the direction is shit.

I'm talking about the one artist with a very very specific art style that you posted 400 drawings by. The one you very justly criticized. The one whose style is absolutely nothing like the character designs in the trailer.

And who is the "they" you're talking about? The artists at Hardsuit aren't from White Wolf and they aren't even from Paradox. Dare I venture that you're once again painting with your rather broad "you liberals" brush?

 

[Luckmann]

I'm talking about the one artist with a very very specific art style that you posted 400 drawings by.

If you think that everything posted is by a single illustrator, you're beyond retarded.

The one whose style is absolutely nothing like the character designs in the trailer.

Much of the art direction wouldn't be translatable to the CRPG format, anyway, due to limitations of interpretation. Obviously, we're not going to be seeing any models covered in tons of swaying accessories and soft fabrics, but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't do it if they could, given that this is the new art direction for the IP.

And who is the "they" you're talking about?

The owners and consequently the developers, as always. There is absolutely nothing weird about this, and it's frankly bizarre to imply that "they" is implied to be some kind of shadowy cabal or conspiracy or something.

Dare I venture that you're once again painting with your rather broad "you liberals" brush?

Again? Are you confusing me with someone, or are you just a defensive faggot that is so into shilling anything remotely liberal that you've lost all sense of critical thinking or deductive ability, just assuming that all criticism is "muh libruls"? Or are you implying that it's just (((concidences))), or what?

Lol @ the amount of mental gymnastics required to think this isn't going to "take inspiration from" the PnP. They've literally said they were designed and developed together.

Exactly. It's especially pathetic that it's the same people repeating it, even after it's been addressed.

 

[Storyfag]

You know, for a community of discerning gentlemen and trannies, this thread features surprisngly many degenerates with the attention span of a goldfish, who cannot tell the difference between PnP stuff and CRPG stuff.

Or, maybe, just maybe, the direction in a PnP developed alongside the CRPG, with the owner of one project owning the other, has some meaning in the general direction taken.

I wasn't even addressing you, pleb. But since you feel I am calling you out, mayhap you are not really convinced of the merit of your arguments?

 

[Luckmann]

You know, for a community of discerning gentlemen and trannies, this thread features surprisngly many degenerates with the attention span of a goldfish, who cannot tell the difference between PnP stuff and CRPG stuff.

Or, maybe, just maybe, the direction in a PnP developed alongside the CRPG, with the owner of one project owning the other, has some meaning in the general direction taken.

I wasn't even addressing you, pleb. But since you feel I am calling you out, mayhap you are not really convinced of the merit of your arguments?

You weren't addressing anyone, pleb. You were making a retarded comment, and was called out on it. And what kind of retarded fucking logic is it to think that if someone reacts to your ridiculous insituations, then "ha ha, that means means that you actually think the opposite because your argument is weak! xD". What an absolute waste of air you are.

 

[Zombra]

If you think that everything posted is by a single artist, you're beyond retarded.

I guess you're right - serves me right for skimming on this cramped work monitor. Mostly I saw a style - and I still believe it is a rather marked style. Let's say I meant that art director, who clearly had a distinct vision and held the various artists firmly under one whip. That whip hand has not carried over to B2 that I can see.

Obviously, we're not going to be seeing any models covered in tons of swaying accessories and soft fabrics, but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't do it if they could, given that this is the new art direction for the IP.

Obviously I continue to disagree. The art direction in the trailer is nothing like this. Why aren't you looking at it? Maybe you think Hardsuit outsourced it to Dreamworks?

The owners and consequently the developers, as always. There is absolutely nothing weird about this, and it's frankly bizarre to imply that "they" is implied to be some kind of shadowy cabal or conspiracy or something.

So who is the artistic director for B2? Serious question, do we know? Less serious question, is the plan to fire all the Hardsuit artists and bring in lap dogs for what is obviously not some kind of conspiracy?

Again? Are you confusing me with someone, or are you just a defensive faggot that is so into shilling anything remotely liberal that you've lost all sense of critical thinking or deductive ability, just assuming that all criticism is "muh libruls"? Or are you implying that it's just (((concidences))), or what?

You seem upset.

Lol @ the amount of mental gymnastics required to think this isn't going to "take inspiration from" the PnP. They've literally said they were designed and developed together.

Exactly. It's especially pathetic that it's the same people repeating it, even after it's been addressed.

The case isn't closed until the primary exhibit has been taken into evidence. Ladies and gentlemen of the court, I'd like to introduce the fucking trailer as Exhibit A. Unless it's too "pathetic" to look at what's in front of our noses.

 

[Delterius]

hey guys

it was jews

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

The face when you forget everyone in Bloodlines dressed like a hipster too, and that a part of Vampire was always about edgy, dark fashion. And before anyone pokes their head out of their farm in Iowa to respond, yes, real people dress like that. Sort of. It's like an exaggerated version of normal big-city fashion, like runway stuff which is even weirder than what you see from these characters.

 

[Roguey]

Well, if original PnP concept art is that bad - i fear to see whats will be in game.

We've already seen some of the characters. They look fine.

Come on you goldfish people https://static2.srcdn.com/wordpress...Vampire-the-Masquerade-Bloodlines-2-Cover.jpg https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/ste...1106ba1c4481dc9b21.1920x1080.jpg?t=1555314072 https://static.techspot.com/images2/news/bigimage/2019/03/2019-03-22-image.jpg http://checkpointgaming.net/app/uploads/2019/03/VTMB2_735x400_acf_cropped-737x400-c-default.jpg

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

The face when you forget everyone in Bloodlines dressed like a hipster too, and that a part of Vampire was always about edgy, dark fashion. And before anyone pokes their head out of their farm in Iowa to respond, yes, real people dress like that. Sort of. It's like an exaggerated version of normal big-city fashion, like runway stuff which is even weirder than what you see from these characters.

Speaking of this topic tho, one thing I've always felt as one of the perpetual caveats of Vampire has been that the passage of time has always seemed very inconsequential. I mentioned before that the Damsel-mentioned elders who think candlelight is a keen invention are basically a mythological beast like big foot, but it really bugs me. Vampire simply has too many NPCs who are hundreds of years old and this has not affected them in the very slightest (since it's basically the default for NPCs; WoD's always had a massive problem with NPCs being too important).

A lot of the actual clothing set-ups in the V5 art posted are not that out there (the bigger problem is really just the artist's style), but the bigger issue is really just that you'd expect these to be something people who were embraced less than 30 years ago at the very maximum would go with. Then again, from what I understand V5 does try to shift the way the setting is organized to a more leveled lower end playing field by de facto mass wiping Elders and such, and at least trying to make Thin-Bloods more interesting to play instead of just something you'd actively gimp yourself doing just for roleplaying, by introducing Blood Potency in addition to Generation and such things. I dunno, I just feel it'd be about time to at least have passage of time actually mean something.

 

[Delterius]

A lot of the actual clothing set-ups in the V5 art posted are not that out there (the bigger problem is really just the artist's style), but the bigger issue is really just that you'd expect these to be something people who were embraced less than 30 years ago at the very maximum would go with.

i dunno man, gen x'rs are the sticks in the mud and might sometimes color our perception of the Ancestors -- a boomer-like vampire OTOH would probably channel his much superior sense of entitled stubborness and adopt new clothes like they all learn to use the tablet

 

[J1M]

In general, I would expect vampires to be wearing outdated styles. Like what your grandparents would wear if they had the same body as when they were 30.

 

[Lacrymas]

I think these are all thin-bloods, so they'll be in with the cool modern kids. The Nosferatu make me suspect this because they aren't as deformed as the previous generations.

 

[Cael]

Lol @ the amount of mental gymnastics required to think this isn't going to "take inspiration from" the PnP. They've literally said they were designed and developed together.

Exactly. It's especially pathetic that it's the same people repeating it, even after it's been addressed.

Shills gotta shill. Fanbois gotta fanboi.

 

[Roguey]

In general, I would expect vampires to be wearing outdated styles. Like what your grandparents would wear if they had the same body as when they were 30.

The Masquerade means not drawing attention to yourself, which means updating the wardrobe at least once a decade.

 

[J1M]

In general, I would expect vampires to be wearing outdated styles. Like what your grandparents would wear if they had the same body as when they were 30.

The Masquerade means not drawing attention to yourself, which means updating the wardrobe at least once a decade.

Yes, and the results are a little funny when your grandparents try to do that.

 

[Roguey]

Yes, and the results are a little funny when your grandparents try to do that.

Old people trying to look young is a mistake, but everyone looks fine in normal clothes. A youthful looking vampire can get away with looking tacky, considering all young people chasing trends do.

 

[Zombra]

What? A young hipster wearing anachronistic clothes? Scandalous! My urban environment will never be the same!

 

[Prime Junta]

The Masquerade means not drawing attention to yourself, which means updating the wardrobe at least once a decade.

I update mine less frequently than that and I’m not even a vampire. Scout’s honour.

 

[gerey]

A young hipster wearing anachronistic clothes?

Wasn't there a news story about a hipster suing some company for using his image without prior authorization only for it to turn out it was a completely different person, but because hipsters are all so uniquely similar the guy suing couldn't tell himself apart from the thousand other hipster clones?

If you're a vampire and want to blend in the smart thing to do would be to dress like a hipster. They're so uniform no one will be able to tell you apart from the rest.