Wasteland Wasteland 2 Thread - Director's Cut

[Gord]

What is that missing companions bug anyway?

Also, did anyone notice something unusual when stripping weapons for parts? At my current level of weaponsmith, I'm supposed to get ~50% junk parts, jet I have gotten some weapon mod exactly once from ~15-20 stripped weapons.
It's statistically possible, but getting a bit unlikely. Thankfully you find weapon mods more easily in the loot now, so it's not such a big deal, just a bit strange.

 

[Infinitron]

What is that missing companions bug anyway?

https://forums.inxile-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=14049

Brother None and sea seem to no longer be reading these forums so you should check if whatever you discover has been posted about over there.

 

[Black]

Made it to California, arrived at the farm with the building that requires you to get hit by a meson cannon in order to get inside.
Cept meson cannon for some reason doesn't want to attack making me miss on l00t.
Unforgivable.

 

[ArchAngel]

What is that missing companions bug anyway?

Also, did anyone notice something unusual when stripping weapons for parts? At my current level of weaponsmith, I'm supposed to get ~50% junk parts, jet I have gotten some weapon mod exactly once from ~15-20 stripped weapons.
It's statistically possible, but getting a bit unlikely. Thankfully you find weapon mods more easily in the loot now, so it's not such a big deal, just a bit strange.

I noticed this too. I stripped like 10 weapons and got one part only (grip from a melee weapon).

 

[Gord]

There's a thread about it on their forums, which also links to a reddit thread. So it does seem to be a bug after all.

 

[Excidium II]

I noticed this too. I stripped like 10 weapons and got one part only (grip from a melee weapon).

Same, I keep getting junk though it's probably just my luck.

 

[Bubbles]

I regularly need 8 or 9 attempts to beat "50-50" odds on a weapon. It's obviously bugged.

 

[AetherVagrant]

How so? The Fallout brand hit the big time with Fallout 3. Is there anything to suggest it had appeal beyond its niche before then?[/QUOTE

1. i was speaking of Fallout and System Schock the brands and not the specific entries
2. fallout one and two were NOT indie underground gems. they were very mainstream and popular for pc games. PC Gamer did a full multipage centerfold feature and guide, and it made many sites and magazine's goty. It was also the game that got friends of mine who werent scifi or rpg fans to pick it up and play when theyd see or hear about the crazy stories and freedom they gave at the time. every teenager in my 7th grade class had passed around the same one or two physical discs,

bringing fallout to consoles bumped it into another strata of accesibility to consumers, but if the first two had made to consoles somehow it would have done the same thing.

 

[Wizfall]

Oh, I'd be surprised if they already put them in for every map - why would they have? - but it's quite clear that they could, at negligible performance cost. At this point I see no good reason to lock the camera like this.


The thing is, full 3D camera control in a game of this format was being done with no problems at least as far back as eight years ago.

Make me think it was the only 3D isometric view game with good camera i can remmeber, the game was not bad too (but impossibly hard to me latter).
Also old school player want a fix camera Infinitron, and if they can't have one at least a good moving camera (like in the link above) for not having to play with it all the time (like in W2).

 

[tuluse]

stuff about fallout

Fallout 1 sold ~200k copies. Baldur's Gate 2 sold 2 million.

 

[Bubbles]

There are at least two main quest bugs if you play the game with a controller:

im in the mushroom caves.
in the room where theres a couple dead bodies and the herbicide gun
skinner keeps saying 'go away sergio'

cant talk to skinner.
cant brute force door. or lockpick it

interacting with door does nothing except telling me theres scartch marks on it etc

https://forums.inxile-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=14005

The official workaround is to use an explosive on the door. If you don't have any explosives, you need to abandon the AG center.

As the title says, cannot interact with the brig door to get to Rick Baychowski and further the quest to find Damonta.

https://forums.inxile-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=14097

I think I figured this out. It appears that in controller mode, if you examine the door before interacting with it, the interact prompt disappears. But the first time you try to interact without examining, it works fine. Filing a bug report on this immediately.

Conclusion: PC master race.

 

[Somberlain]

Question about the Directors Cut:

Do I need lockpicking for anything if I have high brute force? I've only cleared AG Center, Highpool and a few minor locations but so far every lock I could have picked I could also open with brute force. Does this change later in the game? Seems kind of wasteful to have two skills that do the same thing.

 

[likaq]

The thing is, full 3D camera control in a game of this format was being done with no problems at least as far back as eight years ago.

IIRC games powered by Silent Storm engine have the same camera control.
Why is so hard for devs to copy SS camera control?

 

[Daedalos]

Aaaaaaaaaand finished. I enjoyed the DC this time around. Didn't really have any of the bugs people are describin' so. There are definitely still improvements to be had, but the ones alrdy there, made the game even better!

Now we wait for Torment and InXiles sci-fi cRPG! Or wasteland 3.

 

[Zombra]

So is the missing companions bug fixed yet? I don't want to start playing until this is gone

I think they've fixed it internally, so it will be gone with the next patch. They are scrambling to fix a bunch of stuff right now though, so I expect that they are more likely to fix it all at once in a big patch since that's more efficient than trying to release little hotfixes for individual issues.

The traditional opinion of oldschool RPGers on forums like this one is that they don't want to fiddle with camera controls.

Let me go on record as hating the boner so many have for fixed camera 2D backgrounds as the One True God of RPG environments. 3D cameras can be done brilliantly.

Do I need lockpicking for anything if I have high brute force? I've only cleared AG Center, Highpool and a few minor locations but so far every lock I could have picked I could also open with brute force. Does this change later in the game? Seems kind of wasteful to have two skills that do the same thing.

I bet there are one or two things you can't just kick open, but I don't know. I say be a man and take the plunge, make a party with no Lockpicking, you can definitely get to the end of the game without it. What's the point in a game with so much reactivity if everyone makes the same party that is great at absolutely everything?

 

[Excidium II]

I bet there are one or two things you can't just kick open, but I don't know. I say be a man and take the plunge, make a party with no Lockpicking, you can definitely get to the end of the game without it. What's the point in a game with so much reactivity if everyone makes the same party that is great at absolutely everything?

Having choice on how to deal with situations instead of approaching it always the same way since you only have one skill to tackle it. Of course CRPGs are generally too limited for approach to actually matter anyway.

Also I have both because lockpicking is useful to open containers, brute force destroys the contents iirc.

 

[Excidium II]

Also alarm disarm is the stupidest, most redundant skill in the bunch. They could really just use mechanical repair and computer science for the same purpose depending on the type of alarm you're tackling.

 

[tuluse]

Also alarm disarm is the stupidest, most redundant skill in the bunch. They could really just use mechanical repair and computer science for the same purpose depending on the type of alarm you're tackling.

Don't most if not all traps, alarms, and chests have 2 skills that open/disarm them?

 

[Excidium II]

Don't most if not all traps, alarms, and chests have 2 skills that open/disarm them?

You use demolitions for traps. Lockpicking/Safe Cracking/Brute Force to open stuff.

Alarm disarm is just to do exactly what the name implies from what I've used so far.

 

[Bubbles]

The new UI in the DC tells you exactly which skills you can use on an item, which coincidentally also spoils if it's trapped or has a "hidden" alarm - a no-perception playthrough seems quite possible now. I got the feeling that they cut down on the redundancy a bit compared to the original version.

 

[Excidium II]

Yeah, perception is p. weird due to the UI changes.

 

[Daedalos]

Perception still allows you to spot things that would otherwise be invisible. Traps, secrets, mounds etc.

Alarm disarm is nice, if you need to loot something, without alerting 9000 million enemies that 1 shot u on supreme jerk.

Getting an entire Hub against you kinda sucks

 

[cvv]

RNG for skill checks is less trollworthy this time around, 5% critical fail no longer equals 50/50 but weapon stripping is still wonky.

Btw what's up with armor goddamit? In vanilla it was mostly useless, this time around it's weird. Firstly, energy weapons work only on "conductive" armors but nowhere does it say which armor is actually conductive. I guess it applies only to robots? If I shoot a 10-armored human with my NP it does only piddling damage.

Also is power armor completely mandatory in California? I just arrived, went to save the whores and holy jesus on a bike those human opponents have ungodly damage output. I don't remember it being this insane from a year ago.

Basically any toon without a power armor is dead in a single submachine burst which can easily do 300+ damage. And even those with power armor can survive two rounds max. Playing on Ranger, can't imagine this on SJ. Had to repeat this fight like 10 times and use a lot of explosives to kill them bitches as quickly as possible.

 

[Bubbles]

Cover + Turtle + Hardened + a bit of RNG luck is the go-to strategy on SJ

 

[Daedalos]

RNG for skill checks is less trollworthy this time around, 5% critical fail no longer equals 50/50 but weapon stripping is still wonky.

Btw what's up with armor goddamit? In vanilla it was mostly useless, this time around it's weird. Firstly, energy weapons work only on "conductive" armors but nowhere does it say which armor is actually conductive. I guess it applies only to robots? If I shoot a 10-armored human with my NP it does only piddling damage.

Also is power armor completely mandatory in California? I just arrived, went to save the whores and holy jesus on a bike those human opponents have ungodly damage output. I don't remember it being this insane from a year ago.

Basically any toon without a power armor is dead in a single submachine burst which can easily do 300+ damage. And even those with power armor can survive two rounds max. Playing on Ranger, can't imagine this on SJ. Had to repeat this fight like 10 times and use a lot of explosives to kill them bitches as quickly as possible.

There's an icon on every piece of armor that displays whether or not it's conductive. It has a little lightning icon in the right corner in it if so. Check for that.

Also, you can get perks that increase your damage with energy weapons against armors that AREN'T conductive