What game are you wasting time on?

[gamerguy]

The problem with 2 is you have to keep fighting enemies with good drop rates to get any gear. On top of that, you need good magic find, which keeps you from wearing gear you need to put on.

You're going to end up running Mephisto or big D over and over. Trying to follow the same group of players through the next Mephistogogog37 and hoping the game doesn't fill before you join. Once in, you're just going to skip to the boss, kill, and repeat. If something drops, I hope you can click faster than everyone else. It's a stupid gameplay loop that I'm not even sure can be replicated in single player. Without it, you can't get the stuff you need to combine with your skill tree.

Diablo 3 solves ALL these problems. Drop rates are good... RNG will give you something you can use, even if it isn't your final plan. Skills can be changed, so you can use short term abilities without wasting perminant skill points.

On top of that, rifts were a brilliant design choice. No, it isn't the story, but a nice repeatable random dungeon to progress the build of your character... and you can stay in the same game to keep running them.

The game is colorful, which is not only superior art design, but benefits gameplay a great deal. All enemy attacks have an obvious visual queue, making hardcore characters the *absolute* best way to play.

Turn on giant floating point numbers for big 1-3 trillion damage digits bursting all over the screen and you have the best game ever made.


It's brilliant, which is crazy considering how badly they fucked up the original release.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Last time I played Diablo 2 it felt like the gameplay loop got old by the time I was in the jungle level.

 

[Darth Roxor]

the problem with the jungle level is that it's a really fucking bad and annoying level that makes you want to stop playing in general

 

[Average Manatee]

the problem with the jungle level is that it's a really fucking bad and annoying level that makes you want to stop playing in general

If it had good enemies it'd be at least bearable. Spending an hour chasing after pygmies with blowpipes sucks. It was funny chasing after cowardly enemies in the first two areas of Act 1, Act 3 should be a step up from spooky scary skeletons and shit.

Of course if you're the kind of player who thinks that the ideal Diablo 2 gameplay is speedrunning/teleporting through Normal and Nightmare difficulties and then only wants to farm Act 3/4/5 bosses and shit in hell, then everything that normal people consider "gameplay" is bad. I have a feeling this is the case for a lot of people who like Diablo 2.

 

[Axioms]

There's literally no reason to play Diablo 2 with Grim Dawn existing, especially since you can use Diablo 2 masteries and play the Reign Of Terror mod if you really want. No dumb magic find, multi-classing, rainbow loot mod, loot filter, etc.

 

[gamerguy]

I can't think of many worse game mechanics than magic find.


dunce cap design

 

[Max Damage]

I enjoyed Grim Dawn more overall, but it didn't have anything as awesome as Diablo 2 Necromancer.

 

[Krivol]

unplayable

Solid 9/10 back then and 7/10 maybe now.

Oh my... you are a person of the highest standards....

 

[Kabas]

Anyway, still in a Diablo/Hack'n'Skash mood so i am back to Titan Quest.

Enjoying my Dream focused build so far, more than Warfare/Nature i attempted previously. Phantom strike is a fun ability.
Following the suggestion to dump points into mastery until i get damaging aura and upgrade for my AoE skill. After that i intend to go Hunter and focus on spears, that passive that grants extra attack chance sounds very good.
Found a nice kopesh that confuses and drains mana, killed that damned two-headed dog and just reached Delphi. I am having a comfy time.

 

[Axioms]

I enjoyed Grim Dawn more overall, but it didn't have anything as awesome as Diablo 2 Necromancer.

Putting aside that you can play a D2 necro in grim dawn, how is the Grim Dawn Necromancer not good?

 

[Max Damage]

It's not that GD necro mastery is bad, just that it doesn't tick so many boxes so right for me. No Corpse Explosion, no Bone Prison or Armor, not as many summons and hexes.

 

[Average Manatee]

Not having randomized levels in a diablo clone = instant 7/10 max score.

 

[Axioms]

It's not that GD necro mastery is bad, just that it doesn't tick so many boxes so right for me. No Corpse Explosion, no Bone Prison or Armor, not as many summons and hexes.

Bone Prison or armor is intended to come from your second class. Same for hexes. Cabalist has multiple options there. Summons can also come from your second class plus the item summons.

I guess the theming isn't as unified due to mastery combos.

 

[Max Damage]

It's not that GD necro mastery is bad, just that it doesn't tick so many boxes so right for me. No Corpse Explosion, no Bone Prison or Armor, not as many summons and hexes.

Bone Prison or armor is intended to come from your second class. Same for hexes. Cabalist has multiple options there. Summons can also come from your second class plus the item summons.

I guess the theming isn't as unified due to mastery combos.

You're kinda right, but it also still doesn't feel the same as overall package, granted, closer than TQ.

 

[BLOBERT]

BROS FINISHED ATOMIC HEART

BEING A FUCKING ADULT IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO FINISH

I SKIPPED AGJLOT OF CONTENT BUT DID A FAIR BIT OF OPTIONAL SHIT

THOUGH MAINLY LINEAR THE GAME DIDN'T HOLD YOUR HAND TOTALLY OPEN WORLD WAS BRUTAL ESPECIALLY EARLY GAME

RESPEC ALL ABILITIES WAS ACTUALLY NEEDED SO THAT WAS COOL

STORY WAS MEH IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS TRYING TO BE SMART BUT TO MANY DOUBLE CROSSES MADE IT SEEM LIKE JUST A SHOCK FEST

BEST THING WAS SENSE OF PROGRESSION I WAS MURDERING GROUPS OF MOTHERFUCKERS WITH EASE THAT I STRUGGLED WITH ONE ON ONE EARLY GAME

BROS ID REPLAY THIS

 

[PulsatingBrain]

Just became the leader of the Thieves Guild in Oblivion. Going to do the Dark Brotherhood now and probably leave it there.

Found a pretty major issue with the Oblivion XP mod.

One of the ways it rewards experience is when you become more famous or infamous. But rather than happening once when I first put on the Gray Fox Cowl, it's happening everytime. And it's an absurd amount too. It has been over a full level every time and I was already level 22.

I guess I'll use it sparingly.

 

[flyingjohn]

Finished the ascent with a friend. What would be a nice looking decent top down shooter becomes a bore because they added unnecessary rpg elements.

-Horrible UI for any sort of inventory system. No sorting of any kind and you have a lot of weapons/armor. The only good thing is a ui option to sell all duplicates.
-Leveling up is only tied to stats. No skills or perks.
-Weapons quickly become obsolete unless you level them up and that means you will be using a small amount of them since you can't upgrade the majority.
-Enemies easily become bullet sponges thanks to the level system. If something is 3 levels above you expect to unload multiple clips just to scratch it.
-Having to switch between weapon types with only two weapon slots and no pause is a pain in the ass.

It is such a shame. The game looks gorgeous for a non aaa game and the augmentations/weapons are actually fun. From a gun that makes people inflate and explode to a lot of explosive options. Jumping into a crowd and then just blasting everything with a rpg is fun.
Unfortunately the rpg elements deflate the fun hard.

 

[curds]

One of the ways it rewards experience is when you become more famous or infamous. But rather than happening once when I first put on the Gray Fox Cowl, it's happening everytime. And it's an absurd amount too. It has been over a full level every time and I was already level 22.

You should alert the mod author to that if you haven't already. That mod's been around for ages so seems weird that's still an issue.

 

[PulsatingBrain]

You should alert the mod author to that if you haven't already. That mod's been around for ages so seems weird that's still an issue.

I'll leave a comment on the Nexus, but the last update was in 2009, so I doubt he'll see it.

 

[Kabas]

Currently in the third chapter of Titan Quest, just reached China. getting bored again.
It's been awhile since i last has gotten my hands on some nice loot, still using mostly the stuff i got in the middle of Egypt chapter. Heard that the situation improves after unlocking Epic difficulty, those bright idea was locking it behind completing the main quest?
Dream/Hunter is indeed strong and vastly more effecient compared to Warfare/Nature i tried previously but i already want to try something else. And my opinion about the game legnth didn't change, TQ wouldn't lose anything if it was shorter and didn't keep reusing the same dungeon assets over and over again.

Also played that Sonic April's fools VN, it was pretty nice.

 

[Modron]

Also played that Sonic April's fools VN, it was pretty nice.

Are you going to play the KFC VN next?

 

[Kabas]

Maybe. I was interested in The murder of Sonic only because i got a certain nostalgic fondness of the franchise.

 

[Modron]

Gotcha, Mario is Missing next.

 

[Jack Of Owls]

Titan Quest and Grim Dawn are obviously very good games in their genre, and I did get about a third of the way through both of them before rage quitting due to ass kicking, but the problem is I suck at these games. You're actually expected to put some thought into your skill distribution and optimize your build, the bastards! Since my pride doesn't allow me to use a guide or a walkthrough this is a category of game best avoided for me, though I did finish and enjoy Diablo back in the day.

 

[Jack Of Owls]

By the way, currently playing (or trying to) The Last of Us on PC. This is probably the only game I played in many years that actually reboots my computer when it crashes. Took the lazy approach and used Geforce Experience to optimize it for my GTX 3070 and so far it seems more stable but there's still more stutter than you can shake a shitstick at so I may give up (I'm using the latest 1.0.1.7 patch). Was surprised to realize that the HBO series (unwatchable for me before the pilot was even over) is VERY faithful to the first parts of the game but of course much much more drawn out with their uninteresting little dramas and conflicts. I own The Last of Us for PS3 but never got around to playing it.