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TLoU, Cyberpunk 2077, Red Dead Redemption 2
What to play next?
Maybe a good game? Gothic: Archolos has a much better adventure than those you mentioned. From the eastern side try Tactics Ogre Let Us Cling Together, it doesn't have a cringeworthy anime story but is actually pretty decent and has good gameplay.
 

Jack Of Owls

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TLoU, Cyberpunk 2077, Red Dead Redemption 2
What to play next?
Maybe a good game? Gothic: Archolos has a much better adventure than those you mentioned. From the eastern side try Tactics Ogre Let Us Cling Together, it doesn't have a cringeworthy anime story but is actually pretty decent and has good gameplay.
I actually have that in my Steam library but right now I need to stress test my PC because of an issue I had with overheating that surfaced glaringly with the cpu-demading TLoU. Bought a liquid cooler a couple of years ago and stupidly followed the directions in the cooler's manual instead of the recommendation from my motherboard's manual where I could control the fans from BIOS. The tragic result was that my radiator's fans were performing sub-optimally with overheating. I'm confident I've got the problem licked now but to be certain I'll run that glorified benchmark/stress tester Cyberpunk 2077 and play it until I either: 1. get bored. 2. satisfy myself that my system is stable. 3. succumb to its charms.
 

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Finally finished TLoU and its DLC. The DLC had more challenging combat than the main game where you actually had to run and find a decent defensible position in some parts and frankly I wasn't expecting that after the combat cakewalk of the main game. It was also mercifully short. I just can't relate to or put myself inside the head of an early teenage girl and her gf who is the spitting image of Ellen Page when she played creepy castrating murder-jail bait early in her career. Playing Joel was more my head space and within my comfort zone. All in all, TLoU was okay tho. What to play next? Maybe Cyberpunk 2077 or Red Dead Redemption 2?
I havent played Cyb2077 yet but I have played RDR2 and its a great western themed Rockstar game, if you like the GTA quest designs you will enjoy it and its a beautiful open world to explore between main quests

Its not a frenetic game but there are worthwhile activities like hunting and bounty hunting you can also spend time on
 

Jack Of Owls

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Finally finished TLoU and its DLC. The DLC had more challenging combat than the main game where you actually had to run and find a decent defensible position in some parts and frankly I wasn't expecting that after the combat cakewalk of the main game. It was also mercifully short. I just can't relate to or put myself inside the head of an early teenage girl and her gf who is the spitting image of Ellen Page when she played creepy castrating murder-jail bait early in her career. Playing Joel was more my head space and within my comfort zone. All in all, TLoU was okay tho. What to play next? Maybe Cyberpunk 2077 or Red Dead Redemption 2?
I havent played Cyb2077 yet but I have played RDR2 and its a great western themed Rockstar game, if you like the GTA quest designs you will enjoy it and its a beautiful open world to explore between main quests

Its not a frenetic game but there are worthwhile activities like hunting and bounty hunting you can also spend time on
I'm a big fan of good movie/television westerns but I've only played maybe 2 or 3 games in the genre - the old Outlaws game many years ago, and the first Call of Juarez, and both were enjoyable. Always wanted to try an RDR game. Decided to start with RDR2 today. So far, it's pure popamole on a railway to nowhere but who knows? It might get better. I almost quit TLoU early on but ended up sticking with it and I'm glad I did. I'm finding the interface to RDR2... cumbersome.
 
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Finished Super Star Wars Empire Strikes Back SNES, one of hardest and most frustating game i've played, seriously fuck this game, i have played castlevania 1/3, Mega Man 1/2/3, Ninja Gaiden 1/2/3.. none of them comes close to the amount of bullshit this game have, thankfully the game have passwords so you don't need to redo the entire game so Battletoads is technically harder(could not beat this one, having to redo everything again gets old with this amount of trial and error).

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Even with passwords i spent hours in 5 min long levels, trying to just get through it. in the first level you ride these white kangaroos and there's some Ice Caves you need go through, in the second Ice Cave i spent hours trying to beat that level, dying a hundred times+, i did not die this much in the battletoads turbo tunnel level, not even close. There's some fucking Yeti-looking enemies that will freeze you for 5 seconds and then kill you (sometimes not if you're lucky), they do it randomly and too fast to dodge it, if you go melee against these fuckers it's a gamble either you'll die or not:

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Honestly this game is just annoying and bad designed, there's too much enemies and stuff that damages you everywhere, it's impossible to avoid damage. Too much RNG too! in one of the level there's green flying robots that go invulnerable, their movement is all random and fast and you can't kill them, yet if they bump on you, you lose 1/5 of your health, you have no control over it. I think Battletoads it's a bad designed game as well, because all the difficulty comes from 'gotcha!' level design with no continues, but in Battletoads at least you have control over the game, i can get to level 6, the retarded ride snakes coming from walls 'gotcha!' level, without dying once, because it's all memorized and i have control over it, here in Super Star Wars Empire Strikes Back i have none. The game have these fake 3d levels as well which runs at 5 to 10 fps:

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I actually thought it was cool the way you kill walkers, you throw tow cables on them, fly in circles to tie them and take them down. Impressive, but sucks to play at 5 fps, enemies ships will randomly collide on you, removing half of your ship health. There's also this first person ship mission in the Millennium falcon:

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which plays like a poor man Tie Fighter, but it's a lot better than the other ship mission in Hoth, it runs at better and stable FPS, it still challenging, you have to take down 20 enemies, dodging their shots and the billions of meteors coming at you.

I beat the first game as well before playing this one, and i thought it was a lot more reasonable and better designed, still hard a fuck and not the peak of good design, but you can memorize it and make a strategy to go through the levels, i reached the final level without using continues once, with a lot of extra lives to spare, i can not even think of doing that in the second game:

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However this one does not have passwords, if you lose your continues, back to the beginning again. But there's a lot less bullshit in the first game than the sequel. The only one left it's the third one which i heard it's the easiest.

If you want challenge play these games, on normal or hard difficulty. Just a warning it's not good or fun difficulty, it's less Contra and more Ghost and Goblins.
 

gamerguy

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haha... i remember that game... i liked it cause i was a kid and lightsabers, but i never got close to completing it


well done!
 
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I remember being frustrated that the game had absolutely nothing to do with the movie. Out of the trilogy, I think ROTJ was the one that stuck the closest to the scenes of the film, even though it was still quite a stratch.
It's also the better game in my opinion.

The snowspeeder scene was used a lot back then in different games. Of course, Rogue Squadron. And I think Shadows of the Empire had it too? I'm afraid to replay that game. I don't think it's aged that well, even back then it felt a bit clunky and it owed most of its fame to the cool factor alone (and the snowspeeder stage, actually).
 
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I remember being frustrated that the game had absolutely nothing to do with the movie.
To be honestly i don't share this view, for the genre that it's going for, run and gun + platformer, i thought it did well in capturing the scenarios from the movie, what else could they have done really? if it was made in other genre, like puzzle based adventure it could do better, but at this point it's better to just watch the movie instead imo.

Games based on movies should not be accurate translations imo, it should share similar setting, themes, music, art.. ect but done differently, if it's just the movie story/scenes ported to the game there's no point to it imo.

Jurassic Park on PS1 i thought it was pretty cool, it does not have anything to do with the movie plot, except for dinos escaping and killing people. But it does capture the atmosphere well, enough to be insta recognizable to me, the game actually sucks though, terrible clunky gameplay, but gameplay aside everything else was done well:
 
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The issue is that the games wanted to be seen as Star Wars in the SNES. So there was an expectation. I enjoyed them, although the first two have too much artificial difficulty on them.
 
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The issue is that the games wanted to be seen as Star Wars in the SNES. So there was an expectation. I enjoyed them, although the first two have too much artificial difficulty on them.
I just watched the top ten hardest SNES games on watchmojo and they rated Empire Strikes Back as the hardest:

i don't know if i agree with this list, seems random as fuck, does Battletoads in BattleManiacs have unlimited continues? if not i would rate it harder and why is Donkey Kong higher in this list?

Dracula X does have a insane final boss i never been able to beat it, they put a lot of bottomless pits if you take any damage you dead:

so technically it's harder, since i have not been able to beat it, because of this cheap final boss, the rest of the game is average difficulty, just the final boss that's tough. I have bottomless pit anxiety as well, for whatever reason, i end up making silly mistakes, that's why i struggle with Mario games.

Then again i do not believe the people on Watchmajo actually play or watch the stuff they rate, they just google the general consensus and then make a video about. But they're right Super Star Wars Empire Strikes Back is very hard.
 
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All of the hard games of the past relied on artificial difficulty for longer renting times. Arcades would also set the game's difficulty to the hardest config and program unfair things against the player for the same reason. That was it. I don't care about watchmojo, they are probably collecting a list of what gaming youtubers mentioned as examples of hard games.
 

gamerguy

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Plus you didn't have the internet to see complaints. Videogames are easy for the people that make them, for obvious reasons.


...but yeah, arcade games had to keep you spending money. I think I dropped $10 to beat tmnt, and I was only one of four players.
 
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I remember reaching the Kingpin in the Punisher arcade game, I was joined by a bro who jumped in. We high fived every time we beat a stage.
The fucking thing glitched at the beginning of the fight and had to be reset.
 
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All of the hard games of the past relied on artificial difficulty for longer renting times. Arcades would also set the game's difficulty to the hardest config and program unfair things against the player for the same reason.
Console games are not near as bad as Arcade, i have played a lot of Arcade beat em ups and there is always a boss or enemy that does 'unavoidable' damage, like randomly grappling you or have impossible to read hitboxes, i know people can 1CC them but they usually abuse some obscure strategy to do it, this for example:

This boss is actually insane, impossible to know where the fuck his hitboxes are and he jumps all over the screen, but the guy here found the 'win' strategy by spamming the same move, this is why i gave up on these games, feels more like a puzzle game than action game. This is in all Arcade beat em ups, where it's impossible to beat a boss unless you know the obscure strategy to get through it, which usually means spamming the same move or using glitches.

Fighting games are usually better, but i never felt like i was in control while playing against the AI, since it's the AI that's reacting against the player and not the other way around. It feel like if i did win it was because the AI made the wrong moves not because i made the right moves. but it might be these games are too fast for me to react properly. I had a lot of fun playing DarkStalkers on Mame though, and it's not that hard:

Console games are usually about memorizing the levels, since the difficulty comes from the level design, you still need consistency and precision(and time), just memorizing is not enough. I for example, die a lot in levels that i've already memorized it(that fucking snake level in Battletoads is pain).
 

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Finally finished TLoU and its DLC. The DLC had more challenging combat than the main game where you actually had to run and find a decent defensible position in some parts and frankly I wasn't expecting that after the combat cakewalk of the main game. It was also mercifully short. I just can't relate to or put myself inside the head of an early teenage girl and her gf who is the spitting image of Ellen Page when she played creepy castrating murder-jail bait early in her career. Playing Joel was more my head space and within my comfort zone. All in all, TLoU was okay tho. What to play next? Maybe Cyberpunk 2077 or Red Dead Redemption 2?
I havent played Cyb2077 yet but I have played RDR2 and its a great western themed Rockstar game, if you like the GTA quest designs you will enjoy it and its a beautiful open world to explore between main quests

Its not a frenetic game but there are worthwhile activities like hunting and bounty hunting you can also spend time on
I'm a big fan of good movie/television westerns but I've only played maybe 2 or 3 games in the genre - the old Outlaws game many years ago, and the first Call of Juarez, and both were enjoyable. Always wanted to try an RDR game. Decided to start with RDR2 today. So far, it's pure popamole on a railway to nowhere but who knows? It might get better. I almost quit TLoU early on but ended up sticking with it and I'm glad I did. I'm finding the interface to RDR2... cumbersome.
Between main quests you can explore the world and its a good experience especially when you find random people, do side quests and Easter Eggs

There is dedicated thread to RDR2, if you have time read some of the latest comments on that to see what potential the game provides ( just ignore the non-gaming related comments :-D )

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/red-dead-redemption-2-good-or-shit.137096/page-8#post-8426899
 

Jack Of Owls

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Finally finished TLoU and its DLC. The DLC had more challenging combat than the main game where you actually had to run and find a decent defensible position in some parts and frankly I wasn't expecting that after the combat cakewalk of the main game. It was also mercifully short. I just can't relate to or put myself inside the head of an early teenage girl and her gf who is the spitting image of Ellen Page when she played creepy castrating murder-jail bait early in her career. Playing Joel was more my head space and within my comfort zone. All in all, TLoU was okay tho. What to play next? Maybe Cyberpunk 2077 or Red Dead Redemption 2?
I havent played Cyb2077 yet but I have played RDR2 and its a great western themed Rockstar game, if you like the GTA quest designs you will enjoy it and its a beautiful open world to explore between main quests

Its not a frenetic game but there are worthwhile activities like hunting and bounty hunting you can also spend time on
I'm about 12% done and not really enjoying myself. There are like 4 or 5 options for aiming assist, including 2 sliders, and all are cranked up to maximum by default so I had to disable them all if I don't want this game to be ridiculous and giving the feeling that its difficulty is designed for either little kids or adult retards. I'm enjoying some of the quests and side quests (like the bounty hunter ones) but nothing that really grabs me in a consistent way. I may or may not continue. I'm going to go on that grizzly bear hunt side quest (pissed off big-assed bears are usually terrifying but fun set pieces to me in games) to see if I have that, "Ah HAH! It finally kicks in as awesome!" moment I desperately need. I want to say it's the open world design with too many things to do that make it feel aimless and lifeless to me but I played Far Cry 6 a few months ago with a similar quest design and really loved it so...
 

BruceVC

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Finally finished TLoU and its DLC. The DLC had more challenging combat than the main game where you actually had to run and find a decent defensible position in some parts and frankly I wasn't expecting that after the combat cakewalk of the main game. It was also mercifully short. I just can't relate to or put myself inside the head of an early teenage girl and her gf who is the spitting image of Ellen Page when she played creepy castrating murder-jail bait early in her career. Playing Joel was more my head space and within my comfort zone. All in all, TLoU was okay tho. What to play next? Maybe Cyberpunk 2077 or Red Dead Redemption 2?
I havent played Cyb2077 yet but I have played RDR2 and its a great western themed Rockstar game, if you like the GTA quest designs you will enjoy it and its a beautiful open world to explore between main quests

Its not a frenetic game but there are worthwhile activities like hunting and bounty hunting you can also spend time on
I'm about 12% done and not really enjoying myself. There are like 4 or 5 options for aiming assist, including 2 sliders, and all are cranked up to maximum by default so I had to disable them all if I don't want this game to be ridiculous and giving the feeling that its difficulty is designed for either little kids or adult retards. I'm enjoying some of the quests and side quests (like the bounty hunter ones) but nothing that really grabs me in a consistent way. I may or may not continue. I'm going to go on that grizzly bear hunt side quest (pissed off big-assed bears are usually terrifying but fun set pieces to me in games) to see if I have that, "Ah HAH! It finally kicks in as awesome!" moment I desperately need. I want to say it's the open world design with too many things to do that make it feel aimless and lifeless to me but I played Far Cry 6 a few months ago with a similar quest design and really loved it so...
Well it sounds like you have given it an objective chance, if you dont continue it wont be irrational or some kind of knee-jerk reaction

Its not for everyone, do you enjoy GTA games and if you do how would you compare RDR2 with lets say GTA4&5?
 

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i'm playing Game of Farmers and spent a lot of time on it at first I enjoyed it very much but later on I found its greetings boring with no innovation, if you need an interesting game you can play minecraft game with configuration as well as the attraction it brings
 

gamerguy

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still rockin Everspace1... great ship design all around


i haven't messed with the 4th one, but the first three are all really fun... to the point that it's tough to choose which to play


i'm fuckin with the gunship right now... using mine clusters, drones, turret, and aoe attacks... it's difficult to care about shields... but you can build a front facing activated shield too

rad


you can tell these guys are fans of the old space shooters... i really could have used this control scheme to play descent back in the day instead of that dumb space orb that i could never figure out
 

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I'm nearly done with Doom 3. Damn, this game is bad. It's real pretty to look at (for 2004 standards at least), but there's so much wrong with it that I don't ever see myself coming back to it.
  1. Sound mixing is dogshit. I can't listen to what NPCs are saying. Listening to PDAs is a pain in the ass as they bring level progress to a stand still as I listen closely to what characters are saying.
  2. On the topic of PDAs, it's one of the shittiest narrative devices out there. Gameplay-wise, they only serve to provide the player with locker codes for extra ammo and armor. Unfortunately, no thinking is required to unlock these, and only one PDA provides a genuine bonus for listening to it and remembering later into the game.
  3. Guns don't pack a punch. Any kind of punch, be it visuals, sounds, or gameplay. The shotgun has an awful spread, and you can only make the most out of it by shooting enemies point blank. Hitboxes appear to be very accurate, and since enemies move so goddamn much you will struggle hitting them even in close quarters.
  4. Monster closets are the worst thing to happen to this franchise. And Doom 3 is littered with them.
The game IS pretty. It's beautiful at times. But playing through it is hell.
 

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I have decided to play Mafia 3 as my next game, it should be a good break from fantasy RPG and I feel like some random killing of civilians and creating chaos and mayhem in cities...real GTA style bedlam :incline:
 

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