Why do people hate Oblivion so much?

[Stavrophore]

If only oblivion didn't have the potato faces it would be instantly better than morrowind, because comparing both in their vanilla state oblivion is much more palatable. Morrowind you will get sleepy walking with molasse speed[unless you played the game and know where to exploit] but your sleep will be interrupted by the cliff racer attack. Oblivion rudimentary dialog system still better than no dialog at all in morrowind. Morrowind had less bullet spongy combat i think and more RPG instead of dexterity/action based like in oblivion. Overall, like with many developers experimenting with their later installments, in hindsight, they did two steps forward, one step back with some features. Oblivion still wins with their try to make the quests actual quests other than fetch quests.

 

[Jack Of Owls]

First time I fired up Oblivion the week it came out I was shocked by the giant font-size of the UI. I had only played PC games prior and didn't realize this is what happens when a game comes directly from consoles (or vice versa). Also, the fact that it ran like ass on my system with more micro-stutter than late stage cerebral palsy, combined with the horrible hackneyed encounter in the cell with the emperor seeing you as The Chosenone was too much to bear. I abandoned it for several months, maybe even over a year (until I got a better rig), but when I came back to it there were all the faults again. However, I found a mod (that DarkUI or whatever it was called - one of the first mods I ever installed in any game) and at least I was able to finish it without feeling like a consoltard. Played it one more time after that several years later with the special Wanderers Edition mod or whatever it was called then put it aside until I got back in a few years later with various tweaks, OOO and texture packs that crashed the game regularly, like, literally every few minutes, in the heat of main quest battles. Haven't looked back since..

 

[Konjad]

 

[octavius]

Which mod is that from?

 

[whydoibother]

If only oblivion didn't have the potato faces it would be instantly better than morrowind, because comparing both in their vanilla state oblivion is much more palatable.

Melee combat is bad in both.
World and stories is good in both.
There's more magic in Morrowind.
There's fewer loading screens in Oblivion.
There's nicer colors in Oblivion. Morrowind is brown&rust.
Hard to judge if cliff racers or oblivion gates are more annoying as a gimmick.
There's fewer bugs in Oblivion? Question mark? Feels like it, but nobody plays it raw anyways.
Level scaling and item scaling on random bandits is WAY WORSE in Oblivion. Without mods, the game soft locks you from continuing certain characters, because you simply can't get over random enemies you run into after X levels put into non-combat skills.

Both games are about as good (bad).

 

[ind33d]

because of the great graphics and HDR, people at the time mostly played Oblivion like a life sim, decorating their houses and going on pilgrimages from one shrine to another to take in the sights, autistic stuff like that

if you just installed it today it would probably appear unexceptional

 

[Elttharion]

I always remember the battle of Bruma were instead of an army defending a city we get a dozen hobos awkwardly standing around in the snow

 

[Fargus]

I always remember the battle of Bruma were instead of an army defending a city we get a dozen hobos awkwardly standing around in the snow

Back in early youtube days when it was filled with Oblivion videos, some 360 retards claimed this was epic moment lol. I was messing with console spawning 6 times more creatures to fight at once on pc.

Bethesda made towns that looked like villages recovering from plague and epic battles that looked like tavern brawls.

 

[whydoibother]

Back in early youtube days when it was filled with Oblivion videos, some 360 retards claimed this was epic moment lol.

Half Life 2 was a couple of years old when Oblivion released, and it had set pieces with more characters doing more things, faster, while looking better.
A lot of people thinking Oblivion was graphically/technologically impressive for its day should check out what else came out that year, or even in the previous years.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

The perty pink platoon?

 

[Fargus]

Looks like detect life spell

 

[Caim]

Farmgirl gets plowed by a hoe.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Farmgirl gets plowed by a hoe.

Hoe on hoe action. Hot.

 

[anvi]

Ban reddit

 

[Berengar]

It seems like part of the Codex culture to hate

48 pages and the answer was staring us in the face the whole time

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Codex are sith worshipping mephisto?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Dumbass taking sowing the oats too literally.

 

[Fargus]

 

[Losus4]

I love how a minor transgression in Oblivion is enough to make a close-knit village community fight to the death with nothing in the way of trial or jury.

 

[Dark Souls II]

Oblivion is to RPGs what murrican "renaissance fairs" are to medieval history.

 

[Gandalf]

This game has so many mods, but none of them can really fix the base game and make it the king of rpg. It's saddening.

 

[anvi]

The series is shit for modding. Very limited what you can change and add.

 

[Fargus]

It's hard to fix radiant psychopath AI. It exists only to amuse you with it's innanity.

Oblivion is a retard in the family and it's modding was always shallow. Almost no interesting or innovative mods. At some point people stopped bothering and went for Skyrape or back to Morrowind both of which keep thriving to this day thanks to modding.

 

[anvi]

I guess Morrowind is better but I tried to mod Skyrim and it was worthless. There were only really 2 tools to change things and mod things and both were very limited. They are happy to let you add new stuff within their strict framework but you can't really change anything... For example want to do something simple like have a spell with a cast time? Nope.

 

[Fargus]

That's what extenders are for. There could be an skse mod for that, but i never play a mage in Skyrim so i wouldn't know.