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[Parabalus]

also a tip,never sell anything in krasno i had 100 in barter and the selling prices were abysmal.

Barter in it self doesn't affect prices,it could be used as a speech option to lower the prices.

I'm sure it does, I'd keep the tabs with selling price of the shovel and it would change upwards as I increased barter, comparing it at same NPCs. I'm guessing it's some kind of a barter vs barter check, with gun merchant in Krasno having insanely high skill level.

It could be,it will explain why everyone have different prices for shit. Still the best place to make money is the caravans. Is the silver car the only one you could find?

Barter affects prices itself, you can easily compare before and after spending points.

Gun merchant in Krasno has garbage prices even with 150 Barter, avoid like the plague.

 

[krilcebre]

Yep, it definitely affects the prices. RPK I bought went from ~23000 to ~19000 as I increased barter skill. Like you said, it's probably some barter vs barter check by default, plus you get a 10% discount if you pass the dialog check.

 

[Vrab]

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I feel you, man.

Got to love how having an option to cheat people turns into being asked to perform an act of evil and being punished for not obliging. Because taking some time and farming up the 1000 rubles in another way is unthinkable.

I'd end up getting banned from Steam for telling these people to go kill themselves if I had to deal with such crap for a period of time. You really need a special level of patience for some lines of work.

 

[filpan]

Have you guys tried to kill caravaneers? Better be prepared to pay off you debt or face the real death squad if you start the caravan killing spree.

 

[razvedchiki]

killing caravans(or stealing from them) reduces the chance one spawns by 1% per killed/robbed one.
money is not an issue once you understand the mechanics,be good comrades and trade.

 

[filpan]

Money wasnt an issue for me because of pickpocekting, I just started killing them to gain EXP. But then the Payback squad happened and from that point on I was good with them.

 

[razvedchiki]

how much attention i need for various checks like the kostya bandit/kovalevs daughter etc.

 

[krilcebre]

7 should be enough.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

Gun merchant in Krasno has garbage prices even with 150 Barter, avoid like the plague.

They pay more for your stuff with more points in barter.

 

[Hellion]

Hexogen is alright.

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[Deleted Member 22431]

No, it's just saying it's easy to point out mistakes, but it's harder to make changes that are found universally good, or often even better than the original. I'm hardly ever conservative about anything, but that doesn't mean I'm oblivious to the fact that majority of changes to classic cRPG mechanics resulted in failure.

That's irrelevant to the discussion. These changes (better inventory, full control of your team members) are not crazy hypotheses that nobody ever tested before. They are the bread and butter that is known to work in countless games.

 

[Parabalus]

Gun merchant in Krasno has garbage prices even with 150 Barter, avoid like the plague.

They pay more for your stuff with more points in barter.

His buy prices are garbage as well, he's the last person you'd want to sell to.

 

[krilcebre]

No, it's just saying it's easy to point out mistakes, but it's harder to make changes that are found universally good, or often even better than the original. I'm hardly ever conservative about anything, but that doesn't mean I'm oblivious to the fact that majority of changes to classic cRPG mechanics resulted in failure.

That's irrelevant to the discussion. These changes (better inventory, full control of your team members) are not crazy hypotheses that nobody ever tested before. They are the bread and butter that is known to work in countless games.

True. Managing stupid AI can become fairly nerve-racking, especially in some bigger fights. It happened a few times that my guys didn't shoot the right person (they seem to always shoot the closest one), and 2 of them got killed by a grenade, only because I couldn't order them whom to shoot because my turn ended when I killed the first threat. I want full control over my party damn it.

 

[Luckmann]

How is the gang rebellion

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at the Factory, lead my Shishak, supposed to go? Because it seems weird to me. I intervened and fought, but Shishak isn't even there, and after killing all the "bandits" (as if they're not all bandits), nothing happens. There's nobody to have a conversation with. And Shishak's body isn't there either.

So I left the map and then immediately came back, and everyone is back in their places (except Shishak), and it's possible to talk to Dan, and now he thanks me and such, and talks as if Shishak is dead, making me think that Shishak was just one of those random "Bandits" in the uprising, which is just.. weird, I guess?

I dunno, the whole thing was just odd and felt unpolished/unfinished and I'm not sure if it's supposed to be like this or what.

 

[Technomancer]

How is the gang rebellion supposed to go?

Was really confused too. Shishak is there - I've got his named pistol from one of the corpses. Nobody talks with you after the fight and the quest for telling about the elections results auto-completes in the journal without any xp or money reward. For some reason, you are expected to leave the map and come back later so every NPC is reset to their original position. THEN you can talk to Den and have your reward and continue the quest chain. Very unintuitive and strange design.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

His buy prices are garbage as well, he's the last person you'd want to sell to.

There are two gun sellers in Krasno, and they have the better stuf in 90% of the cases. If you want to find great equipment early on, you will have to try those two. I bought the best helmet and armor in one try.

 

[krilcebre]

His buy prices are garbage as well, he's the last person you'd want to sell to.

There are two gun sellers in Krasno, and they have the better stuf in 90% of the cases. If you want to find great equipment early on, you will have to try those two. I bought the best helmet and armor in one try.

Who are the other two gun sellers?

 

[Luckmann]

How is the gang rebellion supposed to go?

Was really confused too. Shishak is there - I've got his named pistol from one of the corpses. Nobody talks with you after the fight and the quest for telling about the elections results auto-completes in the journal without any xp or money reward. For some reason, you are expected to leave the map and come back later so every NPC is reset to their original position. THEN you can talk to Den and have your reward and continue the quest chain. Very unintuitive and strange design.

Alright, so I'm not alone. Note that what added to my confusion

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was probably that I had already stolen Shishak's pistol, which means that it wasn't on any on the corpses, and I checked ALL of the enemies as I gunned them down, precisely because I wanted to shoot Shishak with his own gun. Which I apparently did.

Thanks.

 

[razvedchiki]

Who are the other two gun sellers?

he probably means the armor merchant.

 

[Luckmann]

Yeah, we wouldn't want to have any.. spokes.. in our wheels now, would we?

Man I love this game.

 

[Товарищ]

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Spoiler me gently this, brehs who finished the game:
In the bunker on the castle map that you can reach from Fogelevka, there are these 5 goons with cute gear, yeah?

Should I kill them? And the thing? I am looking for more content, so if they are just muscle later on, I'll kill em and the thing. But if it opens some kind of a quest, Id rather let them go.
I really wanna kill em all, for the backpacks...

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Fucking hated the creatures. Whoever filled the areas with that trash should be forced to play Pillars of Shit for Eternity.
Kiting them into rooms 1 by 1 is fun! Amirite.

 

[Товарищ]

Hexogen is alright.

Post the Battlefield 5 reference. Kids will love it!

 

[Commissar Draco]

how much attention i need for various checks like the kostya bandit/kovalevs daughter etc.

8 it wil aid you also hitting targets with guns.

 

[Infinitron]

Codex review by bataille: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/rpg-codex-review-atom-rpg.125607/

 

[bataille]

Yay, it's up!