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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Storyfag

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Since Swen has confirmed that the EA intentionally contains the neutral and evil companions, I wonder if the final game will have different companions in the place of some of those it has now. If swapping them is possible I wonder if it may even be possible that they be randomized.

Nah, I don't think so. I don't understand how they're going to cram a few more characters into the opening of the game. Then don't you have to decide on your final party by the end of act 1? Not sure how this is going to play out.
I don't mean cram more, I mean swap meeting Shadowheart or the mage guy for someone else. Their introductory dialogue could easily be redone, and some other character could easily get his own introductory dialogue which will work for meeting them in the same circumstances in which you now meet these two NPCs.
First full playthrough, I'll probably go with the vampire, the wizard and either the Githyanki or the warlock.
Ehm... excuse me, what the fuck?

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I ain't taking no Shar priestess with me. The Dead Three or bust as far as evil gods are concerned (and Laduguer for the Duergar).

Truth.
 

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It makes sense to be able to meet all possible companions in the first 1/3 of the campaign though. You need time to develop them, and those you met later in BG/2 would rarely become regulars in your party. I think looking at PoE/2 would show the same tendency.
For sure - my issue is what Swen said about having to decide on the permanent composition of your party by the end of the first act. That doesn't feel like BG to me. It basically means that you're locked in with these people and that they no longer have any real agency or characterization. I understand having a restriction when you're in the Underdark or whatever, but this seems like a really stupid restriction.
Sounds like a cool idea to me. I've always been dissatisfied with the "stable master" mentality in so many post-2000 RPGs where you can swap people out like changing your socks, with a dozen people sitting by the phone waiting for you to snap your fingers, to mix a metaphor. While this may not be a perfect solution, I'm pleased to see that Larian is at least exploring new concepts in how parties are built.
 

a cut of domestic sheep prime

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Who here is waiting for the patch that includes paladins just to make a solo run and smite the degenerate companions btw?
I've always wanted to play a paladin that's a total racist.

Just running around, massacring orc villages and putting subhumans to the sword in Faerun.

Not in a grimdark way like 40k where his holy order approves of it all, but in a "PALADIN DELRON NOOOOOO!" kind of way where all of society slowly begins to recognize what a massive asshole he is, but no one can stop him because he's technically correct kind of way.
 

bec de corbin

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It makes sense to be able to meet all possible companions in the first 1/3 of the campaign though. You need time to develop them, and those you met later in BG/2 would rarely become regulars in your party. I think looking at PoE/2 would show the same tendency.
For sure - my issue is what Swen said about having to decide on the permanent composition of your party by the end of the first act. That doesn't feel like BG to me. It basically means that you're locked in with these people and that they no longer have any real agency or characterization. I understand having a restriction when you're in the Underdark or whatever, but this seems like a really stupid restriction.
Sounds like a cool idea to me. I've always been dissatisfied with the "stable master" mentality in so many post-2000 RPGs where you can swap people out like changing your socks, with a dozen people sitting by the phone waiting for you to snap your fingers, to mix a metaphor. While this may not be a perfect solution, I'm pleased to see that Larian is at least exploring new concepts in how parties are built.
That's how DOS2 worked too, you know?
 

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Sounds like a cool idea to me. I've always been dissatisfied with the "stable master" mentality in so many post-2000 RPGs where you can swap people out like changing your socks, with a dozen people sitting by the phone waiting for you to snap your fingers, to mix a metaphor. While this may not be a perfect solution, I'm pleased to see that Larian is at least exploring new concepts in how parties are built.

While this may not be a perfect solution, I'm pleased to see that Larian is at least exploring new concepts in how parties are built.

new concepts

new concepts

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Takamori

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Who here is waiting for the patch that includes paladins just to make a solo run and smite the degenerate companions btw?
I've always wanted to play a paladin that's a total racist.

Just running around, massacring orc villages and putting subhumans to the sword in Faerun.

Not in a grimdark way like 40k where his holy order approves of it all, but in a "PALADIN DELRON NOOOOOO!" kind of way where all of society slowly begins to recognize what a massive asshole he is, but no one can stop him because he's technically correct kind of way.

Its kinda hard to get it because there is some basic war rules to follow, if they kneel you stop so avoid losing your Paladin powers because you smite an unarmed civilian orc. But when they engage with weapon you just make sure you gonna smite then with extreme prejudice so they can't even bother to breath after the event! Also fuck you Bard I ain't gonna parley by your damn rules, they were armed orcs ready to open your ass cheek like a cheap porno movie!
 

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It makes sense to be able to meet all possible companions in the first 1/3 of the campaign though. You need time to develop them, and those you met later in BG/2 would rarely become regulars in your party. I think looking at PoE/2 would show the same tendency.
For sure - my issue is what Swen said about having to decide on the permanent composition of your party by the end of the first act. That doesn't feel like BG to me. It basically means that you're locked in with these people and that they no longer have any real agency or characterization. I understand having a restriction when you're in the Underdark or whatever, but this seems like a really stupid restriction.
Sounds like a cool idea to me. I've always been dissatisfied with the "stable master" mentality in so many post-2000 RPGs where you can swap people out like changing your socks, with a dozen people sitting by the phone waiting for you to snap your fingers, to mix a metaphor. While this may not be a perfect solution, I'm pleased to see that Larian is at least exploring new concepts in how parties are built.


But... what if you actually have a stable? :shredder:
 

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I was expecting to hate the joinable characters but they're mostly okay; none of them are insanely annoying at least which to me is already a major accomplishment. I think the githyanki is the worst so far but that I mostly chalk up to githyanki always being a bit of a xenophobic gimmick in the most boring sense; just kind of one note. At least their stats are fine so they're functional.
 
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Who here is waiting for the patch that includes paladins just to make a solo run and smite the degenerate companions btw?
I've always wanted to play a paladin that's a total racist.

Just running around, massacring orc villages and putting subhumans to the sword in Faerun.

Not in a grimdark way like 40k where his holy order approves of it all, but in a "PALADIN DELRON NOOOOOO!" kind of way where all of society slowly begins to recognize what a massive asshole he is, but no one can stop him because he's technically correct kind of way.

Its kinda hard to get it because there is some basic war rules to follow, if they kneel you stop so avoid losing your Paladin powers because you smite an unarmed civilian orc. But when they engage with weapon you just make sure you gonna smite then with extreme prejudice so they can't even bother to breath after the event! Also fuck you Bard I ain't gonna parley by your damn rules, they were armed orcs ready to open your ass cheek like a cheap porno movie!
But did orcs sign the Geneva Convention? Ah guess not. Bad for them.
 

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Who here is waiting for the patch that includes paladins just to make a solo run and smite the degenerate companions btw?
I've always wanted to play a paladin that's a total racist.

Just running around, massacring orc villages and putting subhumans to the sword in Faerun.

Not in a grimdark way like 40k where his holy order approves of it all, but in a "PALADIN DELRON NOOOOOO!" kind of way where all of society slowly begins to recognize what a massive asshole he is, but no one can stop him because he's technically correct kind of way.
For rangers, racism is a superpower.
 

Lawntoilet

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Who here is waiting for the patch that includes paladins just to make a solo run and smite the degenerate companions btw?
I've always wanted to play a paladin that's a total racist.

Just running around, massacring orc villages and putting subhumans to the sword in Faerun.

Not in a grimdark way like 40k where his holy order approves of it all, but in a "PALADIN DELRON NOOOOOO!" kind of way where all of society slowly begins to recognize what a massive asshole he is, but no one can stop him because he's technically correct kind of way.
For rangers, racism is a superpower.
No wonder WotC won't give them any love in 5e.
 
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Who here is waiting for the patch that includes paladins just to make a solo run and smite the degenerate companions btw?
I've always wanted to play a paladin that's a total racist.

Just running around, massacring orc villages and putting subhumans to the sword in Faerun.

Not in a grimdark way like 40k where his holy order approves of it all, but in a "PALADIN DELRON NOOOOOO!" kind of way where all of society slowly begins to recognize what a massive asshole he is, but no one can stop him because he's technically correct kind of way.
For rangers, racism is a superpower.
No wonder WotC won't give them any love in 5e.
The virgin ranger vs the chad melee warrior.
 

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