Blizzard announced "Classic" World of Warcraft

[Dr1f7]

I can't imagine something more lame and boring than "hardcore" world of warcraft LMAO how fucking obsessed do you need to be

 

[Caim]

I can't imagine something more lame and boring than "hardcore" world of warcraft LMAO how fucking obsessed do you need to be

Griefing other players in "hardcore" wow.

Which is a bannable offense, by the way.

 

[Sarathiour]

I already ranted about it, I dunno why "hardcore wow" is a topic that pop-up every 6 months or so, but I can only explain it as a bait for people with severe Stockholm syndrome that can't let go of game experience that is now dead and buried in the past, and trick themselves into thinking that maybe restarting for nth time, except this time they're playing upside-down with their feet on the keyboard, hoping it will finally give them the fresh perspective on a two decade old games they longed for.

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

hoping it will finally give them the fresh perspective on a two decade old games they longed for.

Who needs a fresh perspective?

They play to get the feels they felt 20 years ago. You know, like listening to your favorite bands from your teenhood? It's normal.

And playing old games with mods is normal, too.

 

[SerratedBiz]

As opposed to what, y'know, the Codex stands for, which includes replaying MORE than two-decade-old RPGs / games for reasons which apparently have nothing to do with the fact that games were simply designed better back then and that the original experience continues to surpass the current one by miles.

Retard.

 

[Absinthe]

Incidentally, about spellcleave groups: It's mostly strat and mara where they added measures against it.

Season of Mastery was trying to push players to reach endgame as soon as possible (a stupid change, and part of what made Retail cancer), so it looks like they were okay with doing it to power through low level dungeons. You do get a huge exp penalty for getting assistance from high-level players though, so presumably you'd need to do a leveling spellcleave with equal level party members, which is much harder to organize.

 

[Dr1f7]

hoping it will finally give them the fresh perspective on a two decade old games they longed for.

Who needs a fresh perspective?

They play to get the feels they felt 20 years ago. You know, like listening to your favorite bands from your teenhood? It's normal.

And playing old games with mods is normal, too.

it's normal to listen to your favorite teenhood bands for like... an hour or two every couple years
it's absolutely not normal to spend multiple hundreds of hours over the course of 1-3 months replaying a 20 year old game from teen years as an adult

big difference between the two

 

[janior]

hoping it will finally give them the fresh perspective on a two decade old games they longed for.

Who needs a fresh perspective?

They play to get the feels they felt 20 years ago. You know, like listening to your favorite bands from your teenhood? It's normal.

And playing old games with mods is normal, too.

it's normal to listen to your favorite teenhood bands for like... an hour or two every couple years
it's absolutely not normal to spend multiple hundreds of hours over the course of 1-3 months replaying a 20 year old game from teen years as an adult

big difference between the two

noooooooo stop having fun, because uh this game is uh OLD, off urself faggot

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

hoping it will finally give them the fresh perspective on a two decade old games they longed for.

Who needs a fresh perspective?

They play to get the feels they felt 20 years ago. You know, like listening to your favorite bands from your teenhood? It's normal.

And playing old games with mods is normal, too.

it's normal to listen to your favorite teenhood bands for like... an hour or two every couple years
it's absolutely not normal to spend multiple hundreds of hours over the course of 1-3 months replaying a 20 year old game from teen years as an adult

big difference between the two

Somebody tell 2023 it should stop liking the 80s unless it's enjoyed an hour per year max. God forbid someone enjoys it more.

 

[Sarathiour]

And playing old games with mods is normal, too.

Nothing wrong with playing old games. But when you arrive at stage when you have to make special restriction designed to suck out anything fun from it, you should start to ponder how desperate you are to fire those sweet nostalgic neuron activation that you had in the past.
Playing WoW in permadeath serve zero purpose, it's tedium for the sake of it, you might as well play chineese gacha. I mean, if you don't realize that just upon hearing the association "Warcraft" and "permadeath", you're too far gone for anyone to save you, any further exchange is just going to be insult hurled against the disbeliever.

 

[Reever]

I really don't see what the problem is. It changes the way you have to play WoW and while you might think that's tedious for others is something they find fun. Choosing which quests to do, what zones to avoid (a lot of the caves for examples are deathtraps cause you'll get swarmed by enemies respawning), chasing certain pieces of gear that might give you an advantage at certain levels, buffs, professions.
It's not any different from something like this for example. And I don't see anyone calling OP out for "chasing nostalgic neuron activations"

 

[pickmeister]

I just received free 14 days game time for free as a gift. Considering this never happened before, they must be pretty desperate.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Yeah it's been less than two months since the last free play period and expansion discount. Blizzard has never done this before, and this is the first expansion where Blizzard has been radio silent on Dragonflight numbers. Even Shadowlands had Blizzard spin doctoring it as some record breaking expansion. Dragonflight? Nada.

WoD through Shadowlands really damaged WoW's reputation. The game has been solidly a "raid or unsub" game for almost a decade. The expansions quality has continued to decline with each expansion as there is less content, less features, and degradation of the music and the visual quality and game design and writing. Dragonflight is more fun to play than the last three expansions in that there is relatively little grind, but it the end of the day it's still pretty much "raid or unsub" and most people who aren't raiders have accepted that modern Blizzard will only ever cater to raiders and have left and moved on with their lives.

I've heard people hoping on MMO-C for a Classic+ with new classes and content, but it will never happen. For many years, Blizzard adamantly refused to officially release vanilla servers despite the sheer demand for them. If you have 800,000 people wanting to use your software (and you can charge $15 a month to them), perhaps you should provide a way for them to do it. Most people would say "yeah, that would be a worthwhile investment". But Blizzard didn't, and you have to ask "why?". They shut down Nostalrius because it was embarrassing to them that people would rather play an old game than retail WoW. If Blizzard were to invest resources into developing new content for a Classic+ and it turns out to be more popular than the game that only appeals to raidloggers, it would be the ultimate humilation for the retail WoW dev team. So they'll never do it.

"You think you do, but you don't" turns out that yes, people really did.

 

[Arbiter]

I just received free 14 days game time for free as a gift. Considering this never happened before, they must be pretty desperate.

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Modern Blizzard quality.

Free game time does not surprise me, the economy is tanking and WoW subscription is not an essential need. I am getting spammed by various retailers too.

 

[Caim]

After the release of ICC for Classic I wouldn't be surprised if the game's just going to tank. So unless Blizzard is going to do Classic+ and make it something special they're on their last legs.

 

[pickmeister]

I just received free 14 days game time for free as a gift. Considering this never happened before, they must be pretty desperate.

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Modern Blizzard quality.

Surpised me as well. Pretty embarassing.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I just received free 14 days game time for free as a gift. Considering this never happened before, they must be pretty desperate.

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Modern Blizzard quality.

Surpised me as well. Pretty embarassing.

Only 7 days for me. The cheap bastards. Not that I'm going to use it anyway, but it's the principle of the thing.

I did notice that there's a giant "Up to 50% off Dragonflight" banner on the front page of the app. After all those years of never discounting this shit until the next expack comes out. How sad.

 

[Norfleet]

I don't see the point of that, honestly. If I have to quit in 14 days anyway, why bother starting? If you want me to play for just 14 days, you have to pay ME. Otherwise it's just not worth it.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I don't see the point of that, honestly. If I have to quit in 14 days anyway, why bother starting? If you want me to play for just 14 days, you have to pay ME. Otherwise it's just not worth it.

They're trying to hook you into picking up the expack and subbing.

 

[Dr1f7]

I don't see the point of that, honestly. If I have to quit in 14 days anyway, why bother starting? If you want me to play for just 14 days, you have to pay ME. Otherwise it's just not worth it.

tbh i don't think they could pay me to play this dogshit "game"

 

[Norfleet]

They're trying to hook you into picking up the expack and subbing.

Yes, but I explicitly don't do things others want me to, especially when those things are detrimental to me. After a lifetime of exposure to ads and then Adblock, I have an instinctive rejection of any idea that doesn't originate from inside my own head.

 

[janior]

I pity those guys who wait in lines at low level zones for a quest mob to spawn and then I swoop in with my macro to steal the tag with an instant cast on it, they are FUMING, i love hardcore wow ROFLMAO

 

[Absinthe]

Just remember it needs to be instant cast damage. IIRC mobs don't truly tag until the first tick of a DoT.

 

[Cryomancer]

Did Blizzard made ANY good change in classic/WotLK wow?

Like in WotLK, they just removed RDF by no reason, censored and brought woke BS to the point that there are not even character gender anymore. This while private servers like duskhaven, vanilla plus, turtle wow and so on are bringing new and interesting stuff.

Look to this. Much better than anything brought by Blizz after WoTLK.

 

[Absinthe]

Did Blizzard made ANY good change in classic/WotLK wow?

They finally rolled back Alterac Valley from the incredibly unpopular 1.11 version to the earlier one. They also did negative shit like the ill-advised dungeon time locks, which did not wreck gold farming but did ruin MCP farming, nerfing Gnomish Death Rays to pierce Divine Shield because it offended them somehow, and nerfing Infernal and Doomguard summons to despawn quickly and not aggro players like normal mobs, iirc.