Cain on Games - Tim Cain's new YouTube channel

[Goral]

Finally some Bloodlines and Arcanum talk:


Edit:
Leonard Boyarsky is jewish and he came up with (((gnomes))) conspiracy. He also wrote around 35-40% of dialogues in Arcanum.

14 people worked on Arcanum, although 3 were interns/temporary while on Fallout 30 people.

Jason Anderson's wife wrote brothel in Arcanum :].

When Sharon was expecting her 3rd child she took leave and Tim Cain had to to accounting and HR.

Troika had a Werewolf demo but it didn't go anywhere.

Malkavian dialogues were Jason Anderson's and Chad Moore's and Brian Mitsoda's.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Which one is that? haven't watched the video yet.

Troika made a Lord of the Rings demo based on Arcanum's engine.

This I know, but this little treasure can't be on any abandonware sites, can it? It must be some other game?

Interplay did two rpgs based on Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.R.R._Tolkien's_The_Lord_of_the_Rings,_Vol._I_(1990_video_game)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.R.R._Tolkien's_The_Lord_of_the_Rings,_Vol._II:_The_Two_Towers

CrpgAddict played them both and liked the first one more:
http://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2014/05/lord-of-rings-final-rating.html
http://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2019/03/lord-of-rings-vol-ii-two-towers-summary.html

 

[Roguey]

Edit:
Leonard Boyarsky is jewish and he came up with (((gnomes))) conspiracy. He also wrote around 35-40% of dialogues in Arcanum.

He also once again confirmed that he designed it to be a dead end as tribute to the X-Files (I recall reading this before but couldn't find the source).

 

[Lexx]

Damn, I completely forgot the GECK was mentioned in the Fo1 manual... and it says exactly what is inside and what it does. Yet Bethsoft went ahead and turned it into some magic bullshit machine.

 

[Goral]

Edit:
Leonard Boyarsky is jewish and he came up with (((gnomes))) conspiracy. He also wrote around 35-40% of dialogues in Arcanum.

He also once again confirmed that he designed it to be a dead end as tribute to the X-Files (I recall reading this before but couldn't find the source).

They also said that such quest wouldn't happen today because someone would surely be offended and even when he was creating it he knew that gnomes - short creatures with big noses and love for money - would be associated with jews.

 

[Egosphere]

Cool to finally get some answers on the gnome questline, and somewhat funny to know that Boyarsky was thinking the same thing as he was designing the quest
edit: also nice to know they think PST writing was top notch, which it was

 

[Roguey]

Terribly amused to find out that they're annoyed that Sierra was actually too hands-off on Arcanum and provided no feedback whatsoever on things that ultimately needed it (system mechanics, black mountain mines and other areas).

Troika pitched a Shadowrun game that didn't go anywhere. What could have been, eh?

White Wolf told Troika they couldn't use Caine. And then later said "Never mind, we're destroying the universe so nothing matters, do whatever you want."

 

[Lexx]

Their surprise about the taxes they have to pay is once more underlining what terrible business people they were.

 

[Egosphere]

Their surprise about the taxes they have to pay is once more underlining what terrible business people they were.

I'm starting to doubt Boyarsky's Jewish credentials

 

[garren]

Their surprise about the taxes they have to pay is once more underlining what terrible business people they were.

I'm starting to doubt Boyarsky's Jewish credentials

Well he said that he also has eastern european blood or something, so like partially jew I guess.

 

[Riddler]

Their surprise about the taxes they have to pay is once more underlining what terrible business people they were.

I'm starting to doubt Boyarsky's Jewish credentials

Well he said that he also has eastern european blood or something, so like partially jew I guess.

That's likely where his Jewish ancestry is from...

 

[Diggfinger]

25m: Leonard talks about how Scott Lynch from Sierra helped Troika get their first contract, and even improved their earnings on Arcanum vis-a-vis the contractual minimum they were supposed to get.

He says something about royalties usually being a means for the developers to 'pay-back' the production costs of a game to the publish, i.e. it's only after a certain time you actually earn money from royalties.
I think he says with Arcanum they got '10 cents on the dollar' from the first copy sold.

Any1 with more knowledge of the industry care to clarify this?

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

I listened to the whole 90 minutes and there's no mention of the butt stuff.

Very disappointing, I hoped Tim would expand upon the subject.

 

[Riddler]

Man, so much pain when he talks about Vampire... Poor bastard.

 

[Infinitron]

Huh, updated my txt. I've always assumed Leonard was from some kind of working class Slavic-American background.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Huh, updated my txt. I've always assumed Leonard was from some kind of working class Slavic-American background.

Boyarsky Name Meaning
Jewish (from Belarus and Ukraine): habitational name for someone from Boyary in Belarus or Boyarka in Ukraine. Americanized form of Polish Bojarski.
Source: Dictionary of American Family Names 2nd edition, 2022

Bojarski Name Meaning
Polish and Jewish (from Poland and Belarus): habitational name for someone from Bojary in Poland or (in the case of the Jewish name) from Boyary in Belarus. Polish: nickname derived from bojar ‘boyar’ (see Bojar ). Jewish (from Ukraine): habitational name for someone from Boyarka a place in Ukraine. Compare Boyarsky.
Source: Dictionary of American Family Names 2nd edition, 2022

Bojar Name Meaning
Polish: status name or nickname from bojar ‘boyar’ (a member of the old Russian aristocracy). Compare Boyar.
Source: Dictionary of American Family Names 2nd edition, 2022

Boyar Name Meaning
Jewish (eastern Ashkenazic): habitational name from a place called Boyary in Belarus Latvia or Lithuania. Americanized form of Polish Bojar.
Source: Dictionary of American Family Names 2nd edition, 2022

 

[Gromoer]

Huh, updated my txt. I've always assumed Leonard was from some kind of working class Slavic-American background.

Boyarsky Name Meaning
Jewish (from Belarus and Ukraine): habitational name for someone from Boyary in Belarus or Boyarka in Ukraine. Americanized form of Polish Bojarski.
Source: Dictionary of American Family Names 2nd edition, 2022

Bojarski Name Meaning
Polish and Jewish (from Poland and Belarus): habitational name for someone from Bojary in Poland or (in the case of the Jewish name) from Boyary in Belarus. Polish: nickname derived from bojar ‘boyar’ (see Bojar ). Jewish (from Ukraine): habitational name for someone from Boyarka a place in Ukraine. Compare Boyarsky.
Source: Dictionary of American Family Names 2nd edition, 2022

Bojar Name Meaning
Polish: status name or nickname from bojar ‘boyar’ (a member of the old Russian aristocracy). Compare Boyar.
Source: Dictionary of American Family Names 2nd edition, 2022

Boyar Name Meaning
Jewish (eastern Ashkenazic): habitational name from a place called Boyary in Belarus Latvia or Lithuania. Americanized form of Polish Bojar.
Source: Dictionary of American Family Names 2nd edition, 2022

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Боярские

Spoiler

Sry no english.

Although this surname is kinda cheesy, so most likely it could have been picked literally by anybody who wanted to rise in ranks by associating with Boyare i.e. aristocracy.

 

[The_Mask]

Interplay did two rpgs based on Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers:

Do you think they're working on the 3rd one?

 

[Nortar]

Huh, updated my txt. I've always assumed Leonard was from some kind of working class Slavic-American background.

Boyarsky Name Meaning
Jewish (from Belarus and Ukraine): habitational name for someone from Boyary in Belarus or Boyarka in Ukraine.

Polish: status name or nickname from bojar ‘boyar’ (a member of the old Russian aristocracy). Compare Boyar.

It's funny how they dance around the term literally meaning a "member of Russian aristocracy", but never otherwise mention the russian roots.

Anyways, one can't simply talk about Boyarsky and not link this guy.

 

[Egosphere]

Huh, updated my txt. I've always assumed Leonard was from some kind of working class Slavic-American background.

He most likely is, since Jewish ancestry is highest in Hungary and Russia, due to a lot of Jews melting into the general population. He literally says he's of Russian heritage in the vid, then goes after a more general 'East euro' identity, then says he's Jewish later.

 

[NecroLord]

since Jewish ancestry is highest in Hungary and Russia

*Cough Poland cough*

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

 

[Roguey]

Tim Cain doesn't care for predefined protagonists like The Nameless One, Geralt, Michael Thorton, Henry of Skalitz, and Harry Du Bois. Which makes sense given that Fallout, Arcanum, ToEE, Bloodlines, and Outer Worlds all use blank-slate characters.

He calls Sawyer brilliant for explicitly outlining goals a game should have. "Josh is a very good system mechanic designer."

"Unconstructive feedback is worthless." - Tim Cain tells off The Outer Worlds-haters.

 

[d1nolore]

Most important thing Tim says here:

“If you really are an RPG; don’t assign me a character, don’t assign me a role”

This is what defines what an RPG is. People say this nonsense that an RPG is a game that you ‘play a role’. This is incorrect, all games ‘have a role’, an RPG is defined by “Roleplaying”.

If you watch a movie the lead actor is playing a role, but this is not called roleplaying, this is called acting. If you are roleplaying this is free form, not reading a script.

Obviously this varies from RPG to RPG as the challenge is implementing roleplaying mechanics.

 

[Harthwain]

Most important thing Tim says here:

“If you really are an RPG; don’t assign me a character, don’t assign me a role”

This is what defines what an RPG is. People say this nonsense that an RPG is a game that you ‘play a role’. This is incorrect, all games ‘have a role’, an RPG is defined by “Roleplaying”.

I would point to Arcanum's backgrounds - they serve as character's "roles". Sort of personal histories you can pick to further define who you are (outside of stats, race, etc.).