Cain on Games - Tim Cain's new YouTube channel

[Roguey]

IDK if a grown man can't figure that out maybe he shouldn't be playing arcanum. I guess it's pointless content and the fast travel button could be marked more clearly but this is definitely a 'can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink' moment.

One thing that could MASSIVELY help is changing "maybe you should consult the map" to "we should avoid the wolves by using fast travel". Especially if the pack of wolves at the end was indeed intended to make you use fast travel mechanic. The way it stands in game is just not clear enough so it's very easy to dismiss, especially considering Virgil's overall attitude towards the player.

Breaking the fourth wall through character dialogue is really not something they wanted to do and clicking on that first dialogue option does bring it up.

 

[Maldoror]

They lost the source code to Fallout? I missed this entirely. I just assumed that Tim had sequestered it away somewhere amongst his plethora of notes and data, and no official sources (obviously discounting the dozens of serious modders who would kill for it) had asked him for it or already had it.

 

[Diggfinger]

They lost the source code to Fallout? I missed this entirely. I just assumed that Tim had sequestered it away somewhere amongst his plethora of notes and data, and no official sources (obviously discounting the dozens of serious modders who would kill for it) had asked him for it or already had it.

I thought the team behind Fallout: Nevada (and Sonara) either had or the code, or at least access to parts of it?

Or were they reverse-engineering the original engine....believe that's what the "Fallout 1 in 2" project did

 

[Roguey]

I thought the team behind Fallout: Nevada (and Sonara) either had or the code, or at least access to parts of it?

Or were they reverse-engineering the original engine....believe that's what the "Fallout 1 in 2" project did

They released a toolset for Fallout 2. Josh Sawyer chastised people for not making stuff with it given all the effort it took to make it happen.

 

[Maxie]

I thought the team behind Fallout: Nevada (and Sonara) either had or the code, or at least access to parts of it?

Or were they reverse-engineering the original engine....believe that's what the "Fallout 1 in 2" project did

They released a toolset for Fallout 2. Josh Sawyer chastised people for not making stuff with it given all the effort it took to make it happen.

well bully for him he's devolved into a discoshit developer

 

[PapaPetro]

I thought the team behind Fallout: Nevada (and Sonara) either had or the code, or at least access to parts of it?

Or were they reverse-engineering the original engine....believe that's what the "Fallout 1 in 2" project did

They released a toolset for Fallout 2. Josh Sawyer chastised people for not making stuff with it given all the effort it took to make it happen.

It became Fallout Tactics.

 

[tommy heavenly6]

Cain: "Actually those things that people dislike weren't my fault, blame others"
Avellone: "Not my fault either"
Boyarski: "Nope, not me"
Sawyer: "I dindu nuffin, I was shouting at people to add more gay characters but they didn't listen"

We're running out of names to blame. Who's left?

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

Cain: "Actually those things that people dislike weren't my fault, blame others"
Avellone: "Not my fault either"
Boyarski: "Nope, not me"
Sawyer: "I dindu nuffin, I was shouting at people to add more gay characters but they didn't listen"

We're running out of names to blame. Who's left?

It's fucking Feargus!

 

[Alienman]

They released a toolset for Fallout 2. Josh Sawyer chastised people for not making stuff with it given all the effort it took to make it happen.

Seems he likes doing that.

 

[Lhynn]

Cain: "Actually those things that people dislike weren't my fault, blame others"
Avellone: "Not my fault either"
Boyarski: "Nope, not me"
Sawyer: "I dindu nuffin, I was shouting at people to add more gay characters but they didn't listen"

We're running out of names to blame. Who's left?

No we arent, its sawyer.

 

[Shadenuat]

Tim took entire blame for toee sucking, hes ok

 

[Ivan]

Marie Callender's Caesar Salad

 

[Vincente]

Wow, he's back to video game topics. Who could've guessed?

 

[Terra]

What a letdown, here's hoping a second channel, Cain on Gays, is in the works soon, while the Codex is typically my one-stop shop for homo expertise, doesn't hurt to have a second opinion.

 

[Roguey]

"We can't let people work on the projects they want to because what if we're making a game that no one wants to make?"

Though Valve having this policy resulted in them not making games at all, so there is some merit to it.

 

[Maxie]

too late mr cain, i've already unsubscribed
much in the vein of fallout perks, your power ups have drawbacks

 

[Black]

too late mr cain, i've already unsubscribed
much in the vein of fallout perks, your power ups have drawbacks

Ummm, akshually, Marxie, FO perks are pretty much nothing but positives. It's traits that have drawbacks.
Do better.

 

[NecroLord]

too late mr cain, i've already unsubscribed
much in the vein of fallout perks, your power ups have drawbacks

Ummm, akshually, Marxie, FO perks are pretty much nothing but positives. It's traits that have drawbacks.
Do better.

He's a dumb motherfucker, if you haven't gathered already.
Traits do have drawbacks. Never perks. That's why you get perks every three levels (like feats in D&D 3E and 3.5).

 

[tommy heavenly6]

Ummm, akshually, Marxie, FO perks are pretty much nothing but positives. It's traits that have drawbacks.
Do better.

The drawback is that by picking something useless like Heave Ho! or Snakeater, you pass on More Criticals until the next available perk.

 

[NecroLord]

Ummm, akshually, Marxie, FO perks are pretty much nothing but positives. It's traits that have drawbacks.
Do better.

The drawback is that by picking something useless like Heave Ho! or Snakeater, you pass on More Criticals until the next available perk.

True. You have to choose wisely.
Some perks are vastly more useful than others.

 

[Maxie]

too late mr cain, i've already unsubscribed
much in the vein of fallout perks, your power ups have drawbacks

Ummm, akshually, Marxie, FO perks are pretty much nothing but positives. It's traits that have drawbacks.
Do better.

did you sincerely think i know the difference between traits and perks? nigga i dont even know what half of them are called since i dont read tooltips past the numeric value

 

[ItsChon]

I started watching some of these videos, and already I'm triggered. In his Fallout 1 video he makes the bold statement that Fallout 76 is a "good game", which he then follows up with "If someone makes a game that's not for you, that doesn't mean it's a bad game, it just means it's not for you", of course essentially saying that people who dislike Fallout 76 do so not because of any genuine reason, but because they don't understand the simple concept that just because you might not like the genre of a game, it doesn't mean the game itself is bad. He outright states hes never played Fallout 76 so how the fuck does he know whether it's bad or not? There are countless video essays on YouTube explaining why Fallout 76 is terrible in painstaking detail if you don't want to play the game yourself, so at least have the decency to watch one of those videos if you're going to be making claims about a game's supposed quality. As a game designer, when you make statements like this, you are essentially signing off on all the terrible game design decisions that led to such an abomination of a game even being made. Also, I love how there is no discussion about how different settings are more or less suited to different genres of games. Is the Fallout setting really the best choice for a game that was designed around online multiplayer and base building?

Funnily enough, I started drafting the above paragraph before I finished the video, but oh boy was I in for a treat once he started praising Fallout 3 and Skyrim. It really just gives off the impression that Tim Cain is some out of touch boomer who is incapable of playing a shooter game at any level of proficiency so of course he doesn't see anything wrong with the gameplay, and someone who grew up playing games that were incredibly simple, so the mere fact that a game is in 3D is enough to entertain them and cause them to overlook all the terrible game design decisions.

I've only seen a few videos but I somehow doubt this guy is making quality content. Can someone recommend one of his better videos, because if that ends up being shit I can just stop wasting my time.

 

[Butter]

It's pretty standard for people in the industry to not badmouth each other's work, regardless of how they feel about it. Maybe he thinks those games are great, but I wouldn't expect him to say anything differently if he thought they were rancid shit.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Cain: "Actually those things that people dislike weren't my fault, blame others"
Avellone: "Not my fault either"
Boyarski: "Nope, not me"
Sawyer: "I dindu nuffin, I was shouting at people to add more gay characters but they didn't listen"

We're running out of names to blame. Who's left?

It's fucking Feargus!

It's 2023 and he's still crying because the well's broken.

 

[The_Mask]

Unironically, the best video he has is the long-hour video with Leonard, because, it seems, that Leonard keeps his mental skating in check. And because Leonard seems to actually be a man with his head on his shoulders. So I would recommend *listening* to that one, while you do something else. Not watching. Listening. Wouldn't waste a full hour actually watching them talk.

Other than that, you're not missing much.



Also... to address your first paragraph real quick: Tim is a man that doesn't like sequels. He makes brand new ideas. Always. Good or bad. So a good portion of his perspective can be excused. He is an artist. It's fine.

The reason why we're not attacking him like you do, is because we've learned a long time ago that our heroes are very flawed. You will learn this, at one point or another, as well.