Diablo IV

[Cyberarmy]

There's no way to avoid exp. But yes, the level scaling is terrible.

One can always choose not to play.

 

[abija]

You are not understand what I am saying. Staying alive is only half that battle (or 1/3), doing damage is what you are supposed to do and you spend too much time not doing that while melee. And melee are not tanky enough to just be targets for Ashava like the guy said in video.

You are bad and present your horrible conclusions based on extremely limited experience as facts. Did it even cross your mind to at least check youtube or something? Maybe, somehow, the most improbable thing happened and you were wrong...

 

[Jimeh]

This pretty much sums up that shitty world boss fight.

During the Server Slam, everyone had one goal in mind—to kill the world boss, Ashava, and claim their exclusive cosmetic. But the great beast only ended up being the perfect capstone to Diablo 4's problems. As Fraser discovered (opens in new tab), fighting it was just a long, tedious slog that made every part of your character feel meaningless. Playing a tanky build? Pointless, because you die in one hit from one of its enormous AoE attacks. Playing DPS? Enjoy watching an enormous healthbar achingly slowly tick down while you spam one spell that it has no visible reaction to. Playing support? No, you aren't—that doesn't exist. Playing a Necromancer? Sorry, all your skeletons got banished to Double Hell and they ain't coming back. All of that slow, tedious grinding of getting to level 20 culminated in an even slower, more tedious grind of a fight.

https://www.pcgamer.com/class-balan...diablo-4but-the-game-has-far-bigger-problems/

Not really true, my barbarian survived a bunch of attacks with low life, even when I had no barrier up. I still died a bunch, a few due to poison because I randomly went to do Ashava as I was not tracking when it is happening and did zero preparation for it.
Overall fight was stupid and I would not do it again. It was especially stupid for melee with need to dodge way more mechanics than ranged did.

I disagree, that fight is harder if you stay at a distance. Either you get too far out of range, so your attacks don't connect, or you have to dodge the fuckhuge sweep that will one shot you if you touch any part of it. Hugging its nuts allows you to sit in the eye of the storm and dodge the occasional telegraphed slam which is far easier and you can tank a hit of most or all of its attacks, as long as you weren't sitting in its fart clouds.

Once I figured it out, I was engaging with it point blank, even using a sorc.

Well fart clouds are killer for melee. With ranged you can mostly ignore it. I spent more time trying to get into melee where I am not in fart cloud instead of doing damage. You are talking shit.
Hydra and firewall do not care for any of these problems.

I'm not talking shit, I'm talking from the experience of fighting the stupid thing on various classes and getting buttfucked down to equipment breakage at range and not dying much at all at melee. Here's a hint, don't stand in the fart clouds and take a mobility skill other than your space bar dodge.

You are not understanding what I am saying. Staying alive is only half that battle (or 1/3), doing damage is what you are supposed to do and you spend too much time not doing that while melee. And melee are not tanky enough to just be targets for Ashava like the guy said in video.

Fuck the guy in the video; he doesn't know shit. Attention whoring e-celebs and their retarded reaction face thumbnails are cancer.

Mediocrepoet is right. The fight is trivial when you know it. Just hug his arse. In phase 2 he does a very obvious attack with 2 circles so you know to move away from his rear attack.

I did the server slam world boss with a melee rogue and barb and didn't die. Using Dash on the rogue I could keep the DPS on pretty much non-stop but the cooldown on leap with barb made me take a little longer to get back to him when he moved. Still beat him with enough time left to exit the game and rejoin for another boss fight just to help out other players.

 

[Konjad]

Why are you even playing this

 

[Artyoan]

Why are you even playing this

It was a free demo weekend and these are desperate times.

 

[Jimeh]

Why are you even playing this

Technically I'm waiting to play it and shitposting on forums while queuing for dota2 games until its out.

Another answer would be because there's nothing else I want to play and its a good game.

I understand the "nu-blizzard" hate, which was warranted, but things change and can change again. Keep an open mind and it's pretty clear to see what we have here is a fantastic foundation for an ARPG. Nothings perfect and enjoyment in all things is subjective but, without a doubt, a lot of people will love this game and should forget what they think they know about Blizzard.

 

[Reinhardt]

 

[mediocrepoet]

Why are you even playing this

It was a free demo weekend and these are desperate times.

I wanted to see if I'd want to pick it up since I used to love Diablo. Glad I did, I wasn't impressed at all. Maybe later on steep discount but probably not.

Reading earlier comments, the target market for this game are people who don't understand that you can stand still in the eye of the storm spamming attacks and move back and forth, probably with instant move or move + damage abilities to avoid the telegraphed circles of doom. Mouth breathers who find moving back and forth while dps spamming to be challenging.

Tl;Dr this is the best action rpg aimed at the traumatic brain injury victim demographic.

 

[Late Bloomer]

The fight wasn't fun. Once you figure it out, doesnt mean everyone else will. The way their phasing works, your initial people who are there for the fight are your unofficial group. My friend told me what to do when he seen I was having trouble. Nobody else figured it out. The thought of using voice chat with these people is not a pleasant one. Since they put the graveyard spawn point just a stones throw away, it became one large zerg fest. People dying, getting some hits in, dying, ad infinitum. In announces who dies in your mmo chat window. Not sure what happened to some of their armor as it has durability of 10% loss on death. I know there were people who died more than that. I think there was like 3 mins left on the fight. It was boring, tedious, and unrewarding. Combine that with brown Leah 2.0 being the central figure, the lazy writing, and the thought of giving NuBlizzard any money, I couldnt uninstall it fast enough.

 

[Jimeh]

Tl;Dr this is the best action rpg aimed at the traumatic brain injury victim demographic.

Ahh, right. The old "traumatic brain injury victim" demographic. Creative. I'm sure the codex boy choir will love that.

But how else could this be expressed?

For a less creative but still negative spin one might call this demographic the "lowest common denominator".

One the stockholders might appreciate would be "accessible", which is the world Blizzard has been using since Diablo 1 days. After all, isn't Diablo 1 just a filthy casuel take on the roguelike formula designed for the traumatic brain injury victim demographic who can't interpret the ASCII? What, you need graphics?! omg, I'm sorry for your loss.

You won't like me putting words in your mouth but is what you're really trying to say "D4 is the best and most accessible ARPG ever"?

Look, you know, some people have a spare $70 and some have poorfag copium posts on codex. It's all good. Maybe ask your mom to buy it for you for your birthday?

 

[Late Bloomer]

Look, you know, some people have a spare $70 and some have poorfag copium posts on codex. It's all good. Maybe ask your mom to buy it for you for your birthday?

I don't think its an issue of affordability. Is it that difficult to understand that some people were willing to give d4 a chance but quickly realized that giving Blizzard money for what amounts to something they dislike would be a waste? Just because someone has a lot of expendable money (I have a feeling you will be getting the 100 version) doesn't mean you have to waste it.

What's it matter if someone thinks to enjoy a favorite game of yours that you need to be a moron anyways? Enjoy D4.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Why are you even playing this

I always play Diablo. D4 coming out even made me go back and play through D1-2-3 again over the last month, not for the story (Because fuck the story of all Diablo games that aren't 1) but it's fun to have a reminder on the different styles of monster clicking.

Speaking of which, enough with you goddamn nerds posting links to idiots talking on Youtube here's the power rankings for dead women in the Diablo franchise because the dead women make it EXTRA sophisticated.
#1 Diablo 2 Resurrected. Absolutely fantastic, buckets of gore, tits and ass, strewn around dungeons after being tastefully raped. The pinnacle of dead woman technology.
#2 Diablo 2. Similar to D2R though not as detailed. Whoever handled the remaster clearly knew what they were doing but the original is still a high point even though the game at large isn't as appealing as D1.
#3 Diablo 1. It's lacking in dead-woman-clutter that the two versions of D2 have but it does get bonus points for the succubi which haven't been bested in any other Diablo. That death moan, that animation, the fact that they teleport away and you chase them down, excellent.
#4 Diablo 4. Could potentially move up the list but despite the graphics being fantastic it's sadly lacking in the dead women department but since I've only seen the snowy area it may change later. They're going for "Oooo bloody meat walls" more than anything and when you do find some random dead bastard they aren't up to par with a D2R corpse. This also could be because the graphics scale better since I have to admit D4 has better performance than D2R.
#5 Diablo 3. Unsurprisingly D3's the worst of the bunch when it comes to graphics. I love the game to pieces but I struggle to even think of any dead women in it despite playing it for hundreds of hours.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Tl;Dr this is the best action rpg aimed at the traumatic brain injury victim demographic.

Ahh, right. The old "traumatic brain injury victim" demographic. Creative. I'm sure the codex boy choir will love that.

But how else could this be expressed?

For a less creative but still negative spin one might call this demographic the "lowest common denominator".

One the stockholders might appreciate would be "accessible", which is the world Blizzard has been using since Diablo 1 days. After all, isn't Diablo 1 just a filthy casuel take on the roguelike formula designed for the traumatic brain injury victim demographic who can't interpret the ASCII? What, you need graphics?! omg, I'm sorry for your loss.

You won't like me putting words in your mouth but is what you're really trying to say "D4 is the best and most accessible ARPG ever"?

Look, you know, some people have a spare $70 and some have poorfag copium posts on codex. It's all good. Maybe ask your mom to buy it for you for your birthday?

Yes. We are discussing this because I can't afford it. The brain damage shit was actually directed at Archangel for his posts but your response indicates I was more on the money than I figured.

Enjoy the game, stop huffing paint.

 

[Jimeh]

Yes. We are discussing this because I can't afford it. The brain damage shit was actually directed at Archangel for his posts but your response indicates I was more on the money than I figured.

Enjoy the game, stop huffing paint.

Oh, please don't hurt me with your witty sarcasm! Ouch!

I don't give a shit about Archangel. He's retarded and so is everyone who wastes time in a Diablo4 thread when they don't even like the game. What the fuck are you all doing?

But, seriously, your mom won't buy it for your or what? Did she say you should be focusing on your homework and not playing games?

 

[mediocrepoet]

Yes. We are discussing this because I can't afford it. The brain damage shit was actually directed at Archangel for his posts but your response indicates I was more on the money than I figured.

Enjoy the game, stop huffing paint.

Oh, please don't hurt me with your witty sarcasm! Ouch!

I don't give a shit about Archangel. He's retarded and so is everyone who wastes time in a Diablo4 thread when they don't even like the game. What the fuck are you all doing?

But, seriously, your mom won't buy it for your or what? Did she say you should be focusing on your homework and not playing games?

Your mom buys my games for giving it to her the way your dad never could. Now kindly stfu if you have nothing interesting or relevant to post.

 

[Jimeh]

Your mom buys my games for giving it to her the way your dad never could. Now kindly stfu if you have nothing interesting or relevant to post.

That's nice of you, man; I'm glad she's getting some action. 70 year olds don't get a lot of love! She won't buy you Diablo4, though? You are going down on her, right? I'm really not sure what you're doing wrong. Maybe you just need a bit more experience? Have you heard about that clitoris thing? Stick with it and I'm sure she'll buy it for you!

 

[HeyCheckOutHowHardICanPee]

If you didn't spend your weekend sitting in Ashava with a level 1 character shouting profanities at people, are you even a real gamer?

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

I don't have time to read entire thread, sure it has been discussed, but its hard for me to understand why they would do this....just trying to see if it is true...just now decided to pay attention to this game and ran across something..is it actually true you have no way of tuning other players out of your gaming experience?

So like you could be slowly trying to examine the new dark world they have created and imagine you truly are the only one who can defeat the ULTIMATE EVIL and suddenly 'XXTwerkingPaladin69' and 'MegaSkinSnake2000' come charging into your area doing somersaults and john Travolta dancing their way across the screen decked out with eye cancer, one followed by a Penguin the other has some out of place Starcraft 2 spaceship circling his head and as they run by you one says "come on Bro we about to Leroy Jenkins this shit, Lets gooooooo!!"

Like that can basically happen?

 

[ind33d]

I don't have time to read entire thread, sure it has been discussed, but its hard for me to gras, just trying to see if it is true...just now decided to pay attention to this game and ran across something..is it actually true you have no way of tuning other players out of your gaming experience?

So like you could be slowly trying to examine the new dark world they have created and imagine you truly are the only one who can defeat the ULTIMATE EVIL and suddenly 'XXTwerkingPaladin69' and 'MegaSkinSnake2000' come charging into your area doing somersaults and john Travolta dancing their way across the screen decked out with eye cancer, one followed by a Penguin the other has some out of place Starcraft 2 spaceship circling his head and as they run by you one says "come on Bro we about to Leroy Jenkins this shit, Lets gooooooo!!"

Like that can basically happen?

in D2 you could password games so normies couldn't get in. this also let me and my friend secretly collude in PVP to gank noobs and steal their ears. very nice!

 

[Late Bloomer]

Like that can basically happen?

Yes

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

Like that can basically happen?

Yes

dude this sucks so bad, I can't even

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

Question about Diablo 3, so I have tried to play it and enjoy it, but it seems so simple and basic, like there are not even any real choices to make in my character build so far, it is mostly pretty straight forward. Nothing at all like Grim Dawn. I am trying the Free Diablo 3 version to see if I would want to pay for the actual game...is that why? Is the free version more basic? If I actually paid for the game is the character building deeper? Or do I need to get further into the game before more choices start to open up? I think my character is like a level 10 barbarian, but really no choices to be made as far as customization so far really. Very very basic, but it seems like maybe there might be something more later, but I am not sure..

I don't want to waste more time playing if its just more of the same for 80 levels. Or maybe I have to buy the actual game to get the real thing? Anybody know?

 

[Sykar]

Nope that is D3 in a nutshell, wide as an ocean but deep as a puddle. At best. You could also say that it is a piss puddle wide as an ocean.
I am actually ashamed to admit that I tried to like this game and Retard of Souls for about 250 hours. The story is batshit retarded. The skill system offers a lot of choices that only lead to different colours of damage with little impact on gameplay. Sets become all important and build defining and forces you into a narrow corridor of choices. Free respecs whenever make building meaningless outside of seasonal characters. Always online is in general bad design.

 

[abija]

The skill system offers a lot of choices that only lead to different colours of damage with little impact on gameplay.

How can you play a game for hundreds of hours and get something as basic completely wrong?

holla_cabezas_de_mierda D3 has free respecs so the only "real choices" are gear related, what you focus on grinding.

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

oh god it is free respecs so the choices don't even matter, so I guess it really is just my loot..its a total pinata party...ok..thanks guys...