Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Elttharion]

The troons are waking up...

Literally a 'the goyim know, shut it down' moment lmao.

 

[darkpatriot]

Gaider talked about how they had this notion that if the game was good enough the story would magically take care of itself.

Technically, he's not wrong. But hearing that from bioware of all places... Their entire shtick for the past 25 years was pushing muh unique and special characters in le epic story, with gameplay being a poorly thought out afterthought. Expecting them to make a good game with emergent storytelling? And pigs could fly.

Honestly, I think the world building they did in DA 1 set them up with a lot of interesting story stuff for future games and has carried the series. However, it looks like they have now revealed most of the mysteries of the lore with this game, and not in a satisfactory way from the way a lot of people are commenting about it.

So I don't know how much interesting lore they have to carry them in future DA games.

 

[mondblut]

The aim of propaganda is to convince, you know. This is, at best, a dog marking its territory. At worst, blatant self-insert fetishism.

I mean, you seriously expect someone to read through these ramblings and suddenly starting to champion troon "rights" or whatever?

It reads like a sermon. Patrick Weeks wants to educate normies on the nuances of gender identity, and they're forcing players to engage with the gender identity quest line to get the best ending. It's so fucking transparent to anyone paying attention.

Normies are laughing at this shit on youtube, not putting up with sermons to get "the best ending".

 

[Larianshill]

This is straight up propaganda.

Sexual revolution, and its consequences, were a disaster for the human race.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

The aim of propaganda is to convince, you know. This is, at best, a dog marking its territory. At worst, blatant self-insert fetishism.

I mean, you seriously expect someone to read through these ramblings and suddenly starting to champion troon "rights" or whatever?

It reads like a sermon. Patrick Weeks wants to educate normies on the nuances of gender identity, and they're forcing players to engage with the gender identity quest line to get the best ending. It's so fucking transparent to anyone paying attention.

Normies are laughing at this shit on youtube, not putting up with sermons to get "the best ending".

The intent was to lecture, normalize and recruit. Patrick Weeks and his tranny consultants had evil intentions, thankfully it backfired tremendously.

 

[Fargus]

It reads like a sermon. Patrick Weeks wants to educate normies on the nuances of gender identity, and they're forcing players to engage with the gender identity quest line to get the best ending. It's so fucking transparent to anyone paying attention.

And it's hilarious. Bioware are as subtle as blunt force trauma. Imagine if someone competent were doing this propaganda?

 

[Larianshill]

Today, I will remind them.

 

[Space Satan]

 

[frajaq]

This game is unironically better than Inquisition btw

 

[Storyfag]

Ok, here it is. I like the game. Combat is fun but I wish they increase the difficulty levels. The biggest letdown is the writing. A lot of repetitive sequences, reminders. Bioware writers need to write hardcore fantasy. It's a step forward and a step backward. Looking forward to next DA game.

1. Wrong_Carlo
2. Honkweebnig/Heroin Liberator
3. Rougay, probably
4. Yosharian
5. sebas
6. Ryzer
7. Assymptotics
8. duskville

You keep missing Tytus.

 

[Skinwalker]

This game is unironically better than Inquisition btw

1. Wrong_Carlo
2. Honkweebnig/Heroin Liberator
3. Rougay, probably
4. Yosharian
5. sebas
6. Ryzer
7. Assymptotics
8. duskville
9. Tytus
10. frajaq

 

[whydoibother]

This game is unironically better than Inquisition btw

I haven't played, and have only seen the clips being selected for me to see (thus, probably the worst the game has), but it still looks better than Andromeda.


Same style of aaaaawkwwaaaard well that just happened Big Bang Theory writing, but Bioware got better at it.
However, in Inquisition they still weren't doing as much of it. So I'd say Inquisition was better in its dialogue than the Veilguard dialogue I see in clips.

 

[Naraya]

This game is unironically better than Inquisition btw

I haven't played, and have only seen the clips being selected for me to see (thus, probably the worst the game has), but it still looks better than Andromeda.


Same style of aaaaawkwwaaaard well that just happened Big Bang Theory writing, but Bioware got better at it.
However, in Inquisition they still weren't doing as much of it. So I'd say Inquisition was better in its dialogue than the Veilguard dialogue I see in clips.

This clip. JFC.

 

[whydoibother]

This clip. JFC.

Ironically, that Simpsons scene is basically the same joke as the joke in the clip.

 

[Xorazm]

This game is unironically better than Inquisition btw

I haven't played, and have only seen the clips being selected for me to see (thus, probably the worst the game has), but it still looks better than Andromeda.


Same style of aaaaawkwwaaaard well that just happened Big Bang Theory writing, but Bioware got better at it.
However, in Inquisition they still weren't doing as much of it. So I'd say Inquisition was better in its dialogue than the Veilguard dialogue I see in clips.

This clip. JFC.

Thing is, while the "kill me" part isn't nearly enough to save it, it least indicates some awareness that someone knows they're writing cringe.

Whoever that person was, they're now fired and there are no brakes on the train.

 

[whydoibother]

Thing is, while the "kill me" part isn't nearly enough to save it, it least indicates some awareness that someone knows they're writing cringe.

I think the main joke of that style of humor is exactly that its awkward cringe. The lack of a joke is the joke. Its all very awkward and tense and uncomfortable, and therefore humorous? Somehow? I don't get it, but many popular TV shows do that stuff.

 

[Tyranicon]

Wow, this whole thing played out way worse than when I first saw the leaks.

Back then I was just like "Oh it's God of War combat + Inquisition."

Now I'm debating if this is a bigger dumpsterfire than Andromeda.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

This game is unironically better than Inquisition btw

I haven't played, and have only seen the clips being selected for me to see (thus, probably the worst the game has), but it still looks better than Andromeda.


Same style of aaaaawkwwaaaard well that just happened Big Bang Theory writing, but Bioware got better at it.
However, in Inquisition they still weren't doing as much of it. So I'd say Inquisition was better in its dialogue than the Veilguard dialogue I see in clips.

The main character’s voice actor sounds so bored. She’s rushing through the lines with zero enthusiasm. lol

 

[Rhobar121]

Wow, this whole thing played out way worse than when I first saw the leaks.

Back then I was just like "Oh it's God of War combat + Inquisition."

Now I'm debating if this is a bigger dumpsterfire than Andromeda.

There is a good chance that Andromeda will be a true masterpiece compared to this game.

 

[Volourn]

So.. DA3 sold 12 mil copies supposedly... What will DA4 sell?

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

So.. DA3 sold 12 mil copies supposedly... What will DA4 sell?

5-8 million after multiple years of deep sales.

 

[Tyranicon]

After holiday sales and a few years, we can expect fans to declare victory right as EA is dissolving the studio.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

I am still forming opinions on this game. I would like to like it, as I enjoyed and liked the previous 3 DA games, but the combat is not good, IMO. Not at all.

I do enjoy 3rd person action games, I love the Dragon's Dogma series and enjoy the Dark Souls series for example, but I am not feeling the combat system they developed in Veilguard. Part of it is because I wasn't paying that much attention to the media before release, so I was still expecting some type of tactical party combat. And not meeting my expectations automatically creates some negativity.

But even beyond that adding active defense hurts the combat so much. Maybe the experience is different if you are playing a mage or bow user, but as a warrior you are constantly having to dodge or block and watch out for indicators that you need to dodge or block. And because it is a party based game, the constant stream of special ability graphical effects from both you, companions, and enemies can make it very hard to get a good look at the enemy you are targeting (and those you aren't targeting) to see if you need to defend or not.

This is an even worse problem in many cramped interior fights against multiple enemies, as the camera will very often make it hard to see where your character and the enemy you are targeting is, with most of the other enemies being off screen. Other 3rd person action games I have played have not had this problem in nearly as noticeable a fashion.

As a result, it is true that you are much busier with a single character, but this is supposed to be a party game. In Inquisition even though they tried to push a more action like gameplay, they still allowed for a mouse driven tactical view so you can play the whole party, not just a single character. But in this game you are so busy dodging and blocking that you don't have the attention to focus on other characters even if they had actually allowed you to that.

I would have preferred they kept defense passive (just based on your defensive stats and any buffs you have) for the most part so you could focus more on the positioning, targeting, and skill usage of the whole party. You know, like it was in previous DA games. Offense is also more active with combos and attack chains being more important, and unfortunately character progression/level ups is also focused around unlocking and upgrading special abilities and core class combos/abilities rather than improving statistics.



I will probably hold off on further criticisms or praise until I play more, as I am still somewhat early, about 7 hours in, and don't know if I am still in the extended tutorial/training wheels section and if it will open up in a significant way in the near future. But I would note that this game seems to so far have a lineage that comes from Mass Effect 2 and 3 rather than the Dragon Age series. You have the same 3 person party and method of managing party members (using the menu to fire off their special abilities) and everything seems to be structured more as missions rather than a world that you adventure through and complete quests in. I have so far found almost no side quests (most of them being optional puzzle solving gameplay), most of the gameplay has taken place is mission levels you can never return to (extremely linear mission levels, btw), and so far more than half of the missions are companion recruitment missions.

I assume that last bit is because I am still at that start of the game and assembling the party, so we will see if that changes. However, the mission premises are very much written as "go find/recruit this character" rather than being to do some other task where you then just happen to encounter a new companion while doing it. And when the group is deciding what needs to be done to resolve the problem that the plot is revolving around, the decision is "We need to go recruit some more people!" rather than actively trying to do something about the problem.

It's actually shocking to me your gaming opinions are worse than your political opinions.

Go back to GD/Politics, you don't belong here.

 

[Havoc]

So.. DA3 sold 12 mil copies supposedly... What will DA4 sell?

If no content patches or DLC, it will sell a top of 2 mil.

 

[Elttharion]

Let the shilling commence

Ultimate Game of the Year shortlist: DA Veilguard