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Underrail: The Incline Awakens
- Thread starter Blaine
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Also, Hoddurform is actually really strong if you do Thought Control. Keep it on your off hand and switch to it when you want to nuke people with a Locus of Control + Premeditation + Neural Overload Combo. Accompany that with a few grenades, and no one will be left alive.
ciox
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There's something unusual about how the game handles entities, for some reason a lot of seemingly identical entities have different properties or don't inherit properties from their archetype properly, it creates a lot of strange behaviors.
Fenix
Arcane
I would turn to guides only if I felt I didn't quite get it.
Its really simple, enjoy a game in its purest form, without looking at guides/builds etc. Just play it!
And yes, as said play on NORMAL, unless you start going all meta on the wiki normal is perfectly balanced to have fun while you figure out the game.
Underrail is 99% a game about building your character, so if you are not someone that enjoys restarting an RPG many times to tweak your build or try wildly different things then it may not be the game for you.
LJ40
Cipher
For the plasma grenade:
If you happen to choose Coretech to work for, Harlan sells the blueprint. If not, supposedly there's one in the Nexus of Technology on level 7
I haven't found any of the pesticide yet though.
Yeah, I almost always choose Coretech, so I grabbed the plasma grenade blueprint just today. Didn't even know it existed.
I guess JKK and Praetorian are good if you're running a non-crafting (or Bio/Chem only) character, for shyguys and armor Chads, respectively.
I guess JKK and Praetorian are good if you're running a non-crafting (or Bio/Chem only) character, for shyguys and armor Chads, respectively.
Breddy gud, goes into the 140s I think. I dunno how much effect Mercantile special inventory privileges have on it, but it's definitely nice to have.
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I chose coretech for my playthrough and got my plasma grenade blueprint there. I think that might be the only place you can get it aside from where the wiki states, which is in the research place level 7
toro
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The good news is that I just got a job
Losing a job sucks. Good luck and I hope you land on your feet.
Edit: I need to grind two levels to get Gun Nut before I start the Expeditions content. I hate this shit.
Parabalus
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They work beforehand, you can check if you use a Juice after using the torch once.
It's in the native temple, a cave in the village in the upper corner, can't miss it. Follow the coast from the graveyard / JSH.
It goes up to 160 with the mercantile special inventory.
Black Angel
Arcane
The crabs are definitely not resistant to energy. I think the energy edge emitters were meant for knifers and even non-blunt melee when going against those crabs.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
Is that why I could suddenly see
Magnar in his spirit form? I thought destroying the Black Rock will prevent him from resurrecting, so I just leave him there. After some time, I returned there after riftwalking to expedition camp, and saw him in his spirit form. Most probably because the Second Sight is still in effect.
I think overall Spirit-Staff is better because of psi cost reduction and 40% extra critical damage. But I guess Hoddurform is even more OP if paired with Psychosis + Psionic Mania.
He'll just tells you about it after talking to him again. I didn't even had time to ask him about anything, when I initiated conversation for the second time he just throws the secret out into the open, probably out of being pissed off by KevinI forgot to ask Dan about Kevin. Seems like killing the beast removes this dialogue option, locking you from Kevin's shop
though I'm not sure if he'll do that after defeating the Beast, but presumably as long as you didn't tell him about Gorsky's plan it should still be possible.
Wunderbar
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that's the problem, i told him about Gorsky and asked him to help with the Beast.He'll just tells you about it after talking to him again. I didn't even had time to ask him about anything, when I initiated conversation for the second time he just throws the secret out into the open, probably out of being pissed off by KevinI forgot to ask Dan about Kevin. Seems like killing the beast removes this dialogue option, locking you from Kevin's shop
Luckmann
Arcane
For everyone's information, you start to be able to reliably see crawlers before they see you at about 15 Perception and Stealth 219.
I'm not even joking, and even then, usually not fast enough to react in real-time or if they beeline for you in TB.
You're supposed to be able to pickpocket more if the target does not detect you, but I've yet to ever experience being able to be close enough to someone to pickpocket in time without being detected. Stealth, relative to the investment necessary for it to be useful, is probably not worth it.
That said, it's made many areas much, much easier, and although I can't pickpocket anyone hostile, it's often enough to just slip past them.
I'm not even joking, and even then, usually not fast enough to react in real-time or if they beeline for you in TB.
You're supposed to be able to pickpocket more if the target does not detect you, but I've yet to ever experience being able to be close enough to someone to pickpocket in time without being detected. Stealth, relative to the investment necessary for it to be useful, is probably not worth it.
That said, it's made many areas much, much easier, and although I can't pickpocket anyone hostile, it's often enough to just slip past them.
I even managed to infiltrate the Grey Army base and steal an oddity - Čutura - which I suspect you're normally required to kill the entire base for, because holy shit I had to run back and forth for that one and dodge into vents with enemies on orange, even with 200+ Stealth. I only managed to find 2/3 Grey Army medals, so I'm nourishing a faint hope that I'll run into them again later.
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ciox
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Pretty sure you need not only Ninja Looter but even some spec points in it in order to be able to reliably pickpocket enemies... it doesn't quite feel like it's worth it.
Luckmann
Arcane
Oh, just for reference, I already have Ninja Looter. When you're just immediately adjacent to an enemy, even with 200+ Stealth, initiating pickpocketing is too slow for the "reduces suspicion by 25%" to kick in in time, and detection just rises too fast for 25% to even be relevant.
It's like "Great, I'm detected in 1,25 seconds instead of 1 second, after having spent 0,5 seconds initiating pickpocketing instead of 1 second!". You could probably reduce pickpocketing time by 75% instead of 50% and lower suspicion while pickpocketing by 50% instead of 25% and I'd still not not be convinced that it'd be enough to matter.
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Black Angel
Arcane
No, I mean before you told him about Gorsky's imminent assault Black Crawler's base. Even if you tell him about Gorsky, as long as you haven't told him about Gorsky's assault, he should still stay in Foundry. Thus, he should randomly throw around Kevin's secret the next time you initiate conversation with him. Though, now that I think about it you need to ask him about Foundry, to which he would reply that he's not interested to talk about it. But the next time you initiate conversation, he changed his mind and talk about Kevin as his answer.that's the problem, i told him about Gorsky and asked him to help with the Beast.He'll just tells you about it after talking to him again. I didn't even had time to ask him about anything, when I initiated conversation for the second time he just throws the secret out into the open, probably out of being pissed off by KevinI forgot to ask Dan about Kevin. Seems like killing the beast removes this dialogue option, locking you from Kevin's shop
If you're completely locked out of this content.... maybe we can ask Styg and co to do something about it.
I did it with 6 Perception, Paranoia, 65% detection goggles, and stealth ~110. Though only as long as I'm somewhere 'behind' the crawlers and not in their direct vision cone. Obviously it's almost impossible to actually do this, so yeah, high PER + high stealth, preferably with good gear to enhance your stealth and detection capabilities, maybe even with Paranoia, it should be possible to see stealthed crawlers before their detection turns red.
Death Stalkers, on the other hand...
No? Ninja Looter probably gave you that impression, but reading the wikipage and tried doing it myself by quickly create a new character with 10 DEX and maxed initial level Pickpocketing, I can do pickpocket stuff just fine from NPCs... provided their detection meter isn't too high for my skill. You see those meters filling up based on what kind of items you steal? Those are their 'suspicion' meter, how much they fill up is based on their detection stats and your pickpocketing skill.
As far as I know, being in stealth affecting suspicion meter at all is only possible once you have Ninja Looter, but I don't know. But if you want to be able to steal from hostile NPCs while still in stealth without being detected, you can use some traps dipped with poisons that affect victim's perception and detection capabilities.
It should be possible to do some pickpocketing around the Grey Army Base without even having to be in stealth. Though you probably gonna need some Persuasion to reliably walk around without being bothered by anyone
Luckmann
Arcane
I'm not a psionic, unfortunately. But doesn't that reveal you, though? If it can be done without counting as an attack, that makes a good case for a psionic thief type of build, because there's so many times you want to sneak past something and wish that there'd be a way to incapacitate someone without murdering them.
Ah, fair enough, I was thinking that suspicion was the detection eye thing. And I can pickpocket NPCs just fine, too, but I can't pickpocket (potential) hostiles. I can also only assume that you need to be in undetected Stealth for the Ninja Looter modifier to the Pickpocket-suspicion-meter to work, and although I can pickpocket NPCs just fine, they detect me almost just as fast as enemies do, making the modifier moot.
Luckmann
Arcane
How? They are all hostile to me, and always were, and immediately turn hostile the second any of them see me. Are you sure we're talking about the same place?
The place Dude takes you when learning rift-hopping.
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