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World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

Arulan

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I'll speak for myself, but that sounds interesting to me. I could do with a few RPGs that aren't just about a power fantasy or making your character stand out above the rest. Exploring what it is to be a Vampire on a day-to-day basis sounds great.
Strongly disagree. We already went through this recently with Nighthawks. I don't want the genre to be turned on its head. Particularly in a fucking sequel. I want a game that does the fucking genre.

I don't think it's turning the genre on its head. Exploring what normal life is to inhabitants of its world doesn't betray role-playing principles, it fleshes it out. Neither I, or what I heard from the developers are suggesting this become a life simulator. You can explore these things thematically and in the narrative. Maybe mundane isn't exactly the term I'd use, but I'm interested in the phycological (transformation, acceptance of becoming a monster, fear), social relationships, religion (both Vampire, and conflicts with previously held human beliefs), and political problems facing Vampire life.
 

aweigh

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Lacrymas

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They became ghosts because someone shouted the wrong pronoun at them. Get your facts straight (no, scratch that, get them gay), you misogynist, transphobic shitlord. The only cure is getting the right pronoun to show inclusivity! Healthy at every stage of decomposition or etherealness!
 

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I don't know, I don't like the whole "you are what you eat" thing at all. I want to choose whoever I feel like (and not gimp myself in the process), not specific targets depending on the abilities I want.
Sounds cool to me, it's nice for story type decisions to have an actual gameplay impact. If you want to be awesome at shooting you eat snipers, if you want to be good at talking over people you eat Republicans. To me that's fun. Besides, it's just going to be bonuses, not entire abilities. If your experience is ruined because you're such a min/maxer that you demand the +5% in dentistry but refuse to eat any dentists, it's you that's doing it wrong, not the game.

Ah the typical "you are playing the game wrong". I have no idea whether that's canon in WoD but to me that seems a little silly from a thematic perspective. As from a gameplay perspective, it's the designer's job to do anything they can to curate the player's experience. Blaming the player for "min-maxing" that results in a sub-par experience, when the game encourages them to do so in any way, is just a poor excuse for flawed design. Plus min-maxing doesn't have to stand in the way of RP, but in this case it does. Even non min-maxer average players, will always have that information in the back of their head that may conflict with RP preference, or just do it compulsively for the bonuses (believe it or not, not only min-maxers do that), when it comes to choosing their feeding targets.
 

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One thing I don't like is that by starting as a thin blood, probably best you can get is 13th gen. full Vamp using diablerie.

Which means you are going to be pretty weak by WoD standards. In Bloodlines 1 you were like 8th gen according to blood pool (IIRC) and you felt like a badass.

13th gen could work in PnP but for a single player RPG idk.
 

Lacrymas

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One thing I don't like is that by starting as a thin blood, probably best you can get is 13th gen. full Vamp using diablerie.

Which means you are going to be pretty weak by WoD standards. In Bloodlines 1 you were like 8th gen according to blood pool (IIRC) and you felt like a badass.

13th gen could work in PnP but for a single player RPG idk.
Powerful and sexy at every generation!
 

fantadomat

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Do you even know what you are talking about? The jap shit came 14 years before that tender song.

The entire video game culture of Japan is built on the Western one. Including its music which uses western scale, influences, traditions and cultural trends like this. It is not about tender or that Jap song in particular but how the whole Japanese video game industry is a frankenstein made of western influences with Japanese perspective. As to be both superficial and distilled for a Japanese audience.

It should come as no surprise really, an imitation cannot be as good as original, even when it is competent. At its best it is a successful rip-off and at its worst it is shallow derivation.
What the fuck this have to do with anything discused here? You sound really butthurt from some jap anime. Also how the fuck is using traditional asian/jap instruments and melodies ripping off western music? You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Muh,japs ripped off everything is stupid,it is fucking obvious that they did ripp off some shit,they were living in shit huts while the west was sailing the seven seas,no need to point out the obvious.
 

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Guys you are overreacting Battle tech also had sjw propaganda and virtue signaling on Twitter and still came out fine.
:troll:

On another note, every time I see Brian's name I get nightmarish flashes of Dead State It was so dull and the writing so lame and sjwish. Never got very far in because of it.
 

Lacrymas

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What the fuck this have to do with anything discused here? You sound really butthurt from some jap anime. Also how the fuck is using traditional asian/jap instruments and melodies ripping off western music? You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Muh,japs ripped off everything is stupid,it is fucking obvious that they did ripp off some shit,they were living in shit huts while the west was sailing the seven seas,no need to point out the obvious.

Oh, trust me, animes and Japanese games aren't using traditional Japanese melodies and the traditional instruments have been tuned and played like the western 12-tone model for a very long time now.
 

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What the fuck this have to do with anything discused here? You sound really butthurt from some jap anime. Also how the fuck is using traditional asian/jap instruments and melodies ripping off western music? You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Muh,japs ripped off everything is stupid,it is fucking obvious that they did ripp off some shit,they were living in shit huts while the west was sailing the seven seas,no need to point out the obvious.

No one is talking about their own melodies using their own instruments. You sound butthurt that someone criticised your Japanese senpai rather. I am talking specifically about their western-inspired stuff taking place in wester-inspired worlds.
 

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I could do with a few RPGs that aren't just about a power fantasy. Exploring what it is to be a Vampire on a day-to-day basis sounds great.
We already went through this recently with Nighthawks. I don't want the genre to be turned on its head.
I don't think it's turning the genre on its head. Exploring what normal life is to inhabitants of its world doesn't betray role-playing principles, it fleshes it out. Neither I, or what I heard from the developers are suggesting this become a life simulator. You can explore these things thematically and in the narrative. Maybe mundane isn't exactly the term I'd use, but I'm interested in the phycological (transformation, acceptance of becoming a monster, fear), social relationships, religion (both Vampire, and conflicts with previously held human beliefs), and political problems facing Vampire life.
Exploration of psychology and religion are of course central to the genre, and I'd love to see these themes ramped up. Picking down to little day to day concerns ("But how can I shave every morning if I can't see myself in the mirror?"), though, is beside the point and misses the reasons the genre is compelling in the first place. Questions like these are only appropriate for a comedy spoof of the genre, and can be hilarious and fun in that context, but in a serious take they are best left unmentioned.

It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Don't look at the finger! or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
 

Ezeekiel

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Maybe the team's various mental illnesses will cancel each other out and we get a good game out of this?
Like with the first star wars movie...

Hey. *Technically* it could happen. Pray to the RNG gods, men!
 
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Both ladies from the trailer wear a bracelet on their left wrist. I wonder if it's just a coincidence or perhaps a Toreador thing.
 

Lacrymas

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Both ladies from the trailer wear a bracelet on their left wrist. I wonder if it's just a coincidence or perhaps a Toreador thing.
It's probably like having a scar on your forearm as a transman after getting phalloplasty done. In the case of these ladies, it means they've gotten rid of it.
 
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PC Gamer said:
Vampire: The Masquerade—Bloodlines 2 will support ray tracing, DLSS, and mods

Good new for GeForce RTX owners.

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When Vampire: The Masquerade—Bloodlines 2 releases next year, it will close out more than a decade of waiting for fans of the first game who have been hoping for a sequel. It's coming. And when it does, it will support real-time ray tracing and DLSS, the two standout of features of Nvidia's GeForce RTX graphic cards.

"We can announce that Nvidia is the official graphics partner for Vampire: The Masquerade—Bloodlines 2, meaning that we will work closely with Paradox to integrate real-time ray tracing effects and performance-enhancing DLSS technology, to deliver the best possible experience for PC gamers," Nvidia said.

Of course, missing from that announcement is whether RTX features will be available on day-of-launch or added in a post-launch patch. We presume the former, given that 2020 is still a long ways off, but can't say for sure—we've reached out to Nvidia for clarification and will update this article when we hear back.

Support for RTX features has been slowly rolling out. There are far more games that have not implemented real-time ray tracing and/or DLSS support than those that have, though hopefully by 2020, RTX will have extended its reach to a plethora of additional games. And of course, ray tracing via DXR will also work (slowly) on Nvidia's GTX cards by then.

In addition to RTX features, Paradox confirmed on Twitter that Bloodlines 2 will support mods. It's a bit of welcome news, even if not surprising—there are various mods available for the first Bloodlines games, including an unofficial patch that fixes a bunch of bugs.

There is no precise release date for Bloodlines 2 yet, just that it's coming out in 2020. However, we did get a chance preview the game in a 30-minute demo. Check it out here.
 

fantadomat

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PC Gamer said:
Vampire: The Masquerade—Bloodlines 2 will support ray tracing, DLSS, and mods

Good new for GeForce RTX owners.

H7pvr3zSr8JH8UB2UHCmGi.jpg


When Vampire: The Masquerade—Bloodlines 2 releases next year, it will close out more than a decade of waiting for fans of the first game who have been hoping for a sequel. It's coming. And when it does, it will support real-time ray tracing and DLSS, the two standout of features of Nvidia's GeForce RTX graphic cards.

"We can announce that Nvidia is the official graphics partner for Vampire: The Masquerade—Bloodlines 2, meaning that we will work closely with Paradox to integrate real-time ray tracing effects and performance-enhancing DLSS technology, to deliver the best possible experience for PC gamers," Nvidia said.

Of course, missing from that announcement is whether RTX features will be available on day-of-launch or added in a post-launch patch. We presume the former, given that 2020 is still a long ways off, but can't say for sure—we've reached out to Nvidia for clarification and will update this article when we hear back.

Support for RTX features has been slowly rolling out. There are far more games that have not implemented real-time ray tracing and/or DLSS support than those that have, though hopefully by 2020, RTX will have extended its reach to a plethora of additional games. And of course, ray tracing via DXR will also work (slowly) on Nvidia's GTX cards by then.

In addition to RTX features, Paradox confirmed on Twitter that Bloodlines 2 will support mods. It's a bit of welcome news, even if not surprising—there are various mods available for the first Bloodlines games, including an unofficial patch that fixes a bunch of bugs.

There is no precise release date for Bloodlines 2 yet, just that it's coming out in 2020. However, we did get a chance preview the game in a 30-minute demo. Check it out here.
Who the fuck cares about raytracing,it is one of those innovative shit tech that goes nowhere.
 
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Storyfag

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They became ghosts because someone shouted the wrong pronoun at them. Get your facts straight (no, scratch that, get them gay), you misogynist, transphobic shitlord. The only cure is getting the left pronoun to show inclusivity! Healthy at every stage of decomposition or etherealness!

Fix'd.
 

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