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KickStarter ATOM RPG - Wasteland Soviet style! - now with Dead City update

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  • I will consider it!

    Votes: 39 54.9%
  • No! I would never!..

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Darko

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So what did everyone think about becoming a Borg collective as a solution to climate change related disasters, or any other large-scale problems where individualism won't cut it? At the time I went against it, but have since been wondering if that was the right choice.

Also, the character of Beetroota is presumably Sveklana in Russian? Which would be a pun on Svetlana, a name that is common in probably all Slavic languages. My Russian is very basic but it felt clever to figure it out.
 

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Tinybuild guy said that any future projects set in Russia may get shunned for political reasons, devs didn't rule out the possibility of changing the setting of their next game for a different country (Atom spinoff set in Yurop, China or even USA?);
sad since these kinda of geopolitical situation makes a whole people and culture synonimous with whatever current regime that pull the shots. propaganda washed crowd aside, to dismiss entire history of people and culture because of their government's bad decision is kinda sad. i'd love more games to set in russia, or china or whatever.
 

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Tinybuild guy said that any future projects set in Russia may get shunned for political reasons, devs didn't rule out the possibility of changing the setting of their next game for a different country (Atom spinoff set in Yurop, China or even USA?);
sad since these kinda of geopolitical situation makes a whole people and culture synonimous with whatever current regime that pull the shots. propaganda washed crowd aside, to dismiss entire history of people and culture because of their government's bad decision is kinda sad. i'd love more games to set in russia, or china or whatever.
To be honest, it would be interesting to make it in some other Warsaw Pact country. There are tons of games set in Russia but how many games are set in ruins of, say, alternative post apocalyptic Warsaw Pact's Czechoslovakia? Maybe even add a postapo version of Jozin z Bazin? Another option, Potatoland? Or DDR? Any country that devs have knowledge off and isn't totally obscure could work. I mean, postapo WP's Albania would be more like a fantasy land for everyone. I'm all for Chinese settings but i'm not sure if post-apo is the thing i'd like set in China. Sounds... boring somehow. Also too depressing even compared to the idea post Soviet Union Wasteland. What next? CRPG set in North Korea?
As to not making or not being able to make stuff set in imaginary Russia because of current politics, it is mighty stupid. I could see if someone wouldn't want to make a realistic game set in Russia early 21st century because of current politics, that could go wrong, but postapo? Nah, that is wrong.
 

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How about you make a game not in some desolate, autocratic shithole
How about it?

We are talking about post-apo games set in countries after a "traditional", nuclear, apocalypse. By definition all of those look like "desolate shitholes". In fact, logically speaking, an atomic apocalypse would be an equaliser - turning everything into shit, be it shit and not-shit (before apocalypse) alike.

And if you think about the countries before apocalypse then I can assure you, Czechoslovakia and other mentioned countries were not desolate though they were communist so somewhat shithole-ey and very autocratic by definition. But how does that make for a worse or better setting by itself? You didn't quite explained that, so please do. The whole point of those games (ATOM) was not to set them AGAIN in ruins of United States (or any Western country). Do you believe that any and every post-apo game should happen on the territory of a Western democratic country? That's crazy thinking.
 

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Someone should make an futuristic apocalypse RPG set in Africa.
You mean today's Africa (for the apocalypse part)+ today's technology (futuristic for Africa would be to catch up to modern tech standards)
Doesn't sound too appealing to me.
Ok, i am a bit too harsh and also edgy... not whole Africa is an apocalyptic setting today, just parts of it. Still no.
 
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Someone should make an futuristic apocalypse RPG set in Africa.
You mean today's Africa (for the apocalypse part)+ today's technology (futuristic for Africa would be to catch up to modern tech standards)
Doesn't sound too appealing to me.
Ok, i am a bit too harsh and also edgy... not whole Africa is an apocalyptic setting today, just parts of it. Still no.
On the plus side it would keep liberal apologists like Grafpong happy.
 
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I can't really think of a setting that's not "problematic". I was gonna suggest Palestine. But whatever. Poland is the country that's "cool to like" because of CDPR and all, I guess. But in the spirit of keeping cheeky stuff from the local culture and using it as part of post apoc cult fodder, like the Kings in NV, I'd suggest creating a faction based on the football ultras of Poland. They are fucking crazy after all.
Also I just wanted to point out that my dad used to own a Lada and it was a decent car. It was his favorite, actually, to the point that he still gets emotional while thinking about it sometimes. I can't remember it breaking down or whatever. He also got to have a Datsun pickup from the 80s and it was also built like a tank. I guess cars were quite literally "built different" back then.
 

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How about you make a game not in some desolate, autocratic shithole
How about it?

We are talking about post-apo games set in countries after a "traditional", nuclear, apocalypse. By definition all of those look like "desolate shitholes". In fact, logically speaking, an atomic apocalypse would be an equaliser - turning everything into shit, be it shit and not-shit (before apocalypse) alike.

And if you think about the countries before apocalypse then I can assure you, Czechoslovakia and other mentioned countries were not desolate though they were communist so somewhat shithole-ey and very autocratic by definition. But how does that make for a worse or better setting by itself? You didn't quite explained that, so please do. The whole point of those games (ATOM) was not to set them AGAIN in ruins of United States (or any Western country). Do you believe that any and every post-apo game should happen on the territory of a Western democratic country? That's crazy thinking.
That's a lot of words for "I love gommunism omg gib me ur dik daddy Marx" (don't do it he never washed)
Someone should make an futuristic apocalypse RPG set in Africa.
You mean today's Africa (for the apocalypse part)+ today's technology (futuristic for Africa would be to catch up to modern tech standards)
Doesn't sound too appealing to me.
Ok, i am a bit too harsh and also edgy... not whole Africa is an apocalyptic setting today, just parts of it. Still no.
On the plus side it would keep liberal apologists like Grafpong happy.
Go puke into a frying pan and take a picture of it
 

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I would just get in touch with the guys behind Vagrus and do an ATOM style RPG set in their universe. Vagrus has a pretty cool world and why not have a ATOM style RPG set in it?

Since Chirs Avellone is available I would hire him for a small sum to design a location for the game.

Then you would have a good RPG set in a cool world. Done. 10/10.
 

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How about you make a game not in some desolate, autocratic shithole
How about it?

We are talking about post-apo games set in countries after a "traditional", nuclear, apocalypse. By definition all of those look like "desolate shitholes". In fact, logically speaking, an atomic apocalypse would be an equaliser - turning everything into shit, be it shit and not-shit (before apocalypse) alike.

And if you think about the countries before apocalypse then I can assure you, Czechoslovakia and other mentioned countries were not desolate though they were communist so somewhat shithole-ey and very autocratic by definition. But how does that make for a worse or better setting by itself? You didn't quite explained that, so please do. The whole point of those games (ATOM) was not to set them AGAIN in ruins of United States (or any Western country). Do you believe that any and every post-apo game should happen on the territory of a Western democratic country? That's crazy thinking.
That's a lot of words for "I love gommunism omg gib me ur dik daddy Marx" (don't do it he never washed)
WTF is this?! I'm done with free lessons for underachieving, lazy, under-the-bridge dwellers like yourself. You monstrous humanoids never listen anyway. Even your kind needs to make some effort in what you do. In fact, a lot of effort is needed for masterful trolling. No wonder capitalism has problems. Destroyed by poor work ethics of its trolls.

Lessons in the basic "How to be a passable troll" course are 500$/hour. Paid in advance. If you are not interested, our little chat is over.
 

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Another option, Potatoland?
Would play a postapo in Pawland.
Eclipse-Illustration-Warsaw-Palace-of-Culture-and-Science-2014.jpg

Eclipse-Illustration-Katowice-Spodek-2013.jpg

Eclipse-Illustration-Warsaw-National-Stadium-2015.jpg

And this could be your choice of vehicles:
G22ge4K.png

And if you think about the countries before apocalypse then I can assure you, Czechoslovakia and other mentioned countries were not desolate though they were communist so somewhat shithole-ey and very autocratic by definition. But how does that make for a worse or better setting by itself? You didn't quite explained that, so please do. The whole point of those games (ATOM) was not to set them AGAIN in ruins of United States (or any Western country). Do you believe that any and every post-apo game should happen on the territory of a Western democratic country? That's crazy thinking.
What's the deal with the ATOM games? Do you have to play as a proponent of the soviet communist system, or can you work against it?
 

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Another option, Potatoland?
Would play a postapo in Pawland.
Eclipse-Illustration-Warsaw-Palace-of-Culture-and-Science-2014.jpg

Eclipse-Illustration-Katowice-Spodek-2013.jpg

Eclipse-Illustration-Warsaw-National-Stadium-2015.jpg

And this could be your choice of vehicles:
G22ge4K.png

And if you think about the countries before apocalypse then I can assure you, Czechoslovakia and other mentioned countries were not desolate though they were communist so somewhat shithole-ey and very autocratic by definition. But how does that make for a worse or better setting by itself? You didn't quite explained that, so please do. The whole point of those games (ATOM) was not to set them AGAIN in ruins of United States (or any Western country). Do you believe that any and every post-apo game should happen on the territory of a Western democratic country? That's crazy thinking.
What's the deal with the ATOM games? Do you have to play as a proponent of the soviet communist system, or can you work against it?
Those are great! Maluch (Fiat 126p for non-potato) is a bit... unrealistic, but funny. But the all the others? Now I want go into a parallel universe and back in time to drive a Warszawa, Syrena or a Polonez through postapocalyptic Poland! Even Fiat 125 looks cool. In fact it looks way better that they used to look in my childhood... lol. Someone make that game!
A propos, I don't recognise the big truck in the upper right corner. What it is supposed to be?
On another note some pictures are not "compatible" with others. You have a postapo Warszawa car and at the sime time a sattellite antenna dish or a solar panel. If those are available no one would drive a Warszawa. Already in 80s they were extremely rare on the streets iirc.
BTW, I prefer the version with a Warszawa.
 

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Those are great! Maluch (Fiat 126p for non-potato) is a bit... unrealistic, but funny. But the all the others? Now I want go into a parallel universe and back in time to drive a Warszawa, Syrena or a Polonez through postapocalyptic Poland! Even Fiat 125 looks cool. In fact it looks way better that they used to look in my childhood... lol. Someone make that game!
A propos, I don't recognise the big truck in the upper right corner. What it is supposed to be?
On another note some pictures are not "compatible" with others. You have a postapo Warszawa car and at the sime time a sattellite antenna dish or a solar panel. If those are available no one would drive a Warszawa. Already in 80s they were extremely rare on the streets iirc.
BTW, I prefer the version with a Warszawa.
The truck is actually a bus. If you look closely, you'll recognise it. It's a Jelcz 043, which most people know as "ogórek" :obviously:.

And yes, remember that in post-apo Poland you drive, what you can get your hands on. If you find a working Warszawa, you won't say no to it. :cool:
 

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Those are great! Maluch (Fiat 126p for non-potato) is a bit... unrealistic, but funny. But the all the others? Now I want go into a parallel universe and back in time to drive a Warszawa, Syrena or a Polonez through postapocalyptic Poland! Even Fiat 125 looks cool. In fact it looks way better that they used to look in my childhood... lol. Someone make that game!
A propos, I don't recognise the big truck in the upper right corner. What it is supposed to be?
On another note some pictures are not "compatible" with others. You have a postapo Warszawa car and at the sime time a sattellite antenna dish or a solar panel. If those are available no one would drive a Warszawa. Already in 80s they were extremely rare on the streets iirc.
BTW, I prefer the version with a Warszawa.
The truck is actually a bus. If you look closely, you'll recognise it. It's a Jelcz 043, which most people know as "ogórek" :obviously:.

And yes, remember that in post-apo Poland you drive, what you can get your hands on. If you find a working Warszawa, you won't say no to it. :cool:
Actually i asked my friend who is crazy about those thing (i mean old cars, including from PRL era) and he agrees. I see it now as well. However he claims that it looks more like a specialised version made for "Pogotowie Techniczne" or something due to... something. But that something might be just author's fantasy. I also identified the other truck. I first thought that it was a Star 266 but i'm now convinced that it is supposed to be a 660 model.

You are right about post-apo Poland, especially 80s post-apo Poland. Additionally Warszawa (and Syrena), although older, are sturdier than Polonez and especially than Fiat 125 so that would be a reason to use them more despite their age.
And you could probably even find a satellite dish in the 80s especially toward the end of decade. I don't know what would you do with it. If a member of Warsaw Pact went post-apo in the 80s then a showdown between East and West happened and i doubt you could listen to MTV via satellite. Or anything else for that matter.

I really want this game made.:outrage:
 

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