Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[Rhobar121]

also heard act 2 is supossedly a drop off but it's as good as act 1 so far just tonally different(which is a good thing)

I have some major objections to Act 2, as I'm nearing its ending.

I think it's a mistake that its main storyline is so heavily scripted as it is. It creates problems for replayability. On subsequent playthroughs the player will have some important reveals already spoiled for him.

Connected to the afirementioned problem, the map design is much more linear than it was in Act 1.

Act 2 very much feels like a game within the game BG3. The link between the region's problems and the main plot, with the party's problem, is very loosely established. It's like everyone at one point or another says "Oh you know what, the answer to my personal issues just happens to lie in Moonrise Towers. "Watta coincidence, innit?"

Spoiler

Somehow you get Moonrise Towers as the single point of abduction of:
- A Gnome elder
- A Duke of Baldur's Gate
- Unknown number of Tiefling refugees
- god knows what else, I forget.

My overall impression is that a bunch of sidequests were produced, and later had to somehow be connected to Moonrise Towers in order to give motivation to the party to go there. But the DMs overdid it. I don't need 5 quests, including one companion quest pointing to the same location.

Lastly, I'm noting the tendency of playing with a custom character essentially spoiling the stories of party members. If I've done someone's personal quest, wouldn't I know everything about this character if I later play as him/her? Was it a mistake making NPC playable as main character?

Story-wise, it makes sense.

Spoiler

This is the main headquarters that contains the source of tadpoles that they use to infect prisoners.
Where else would they like to bring all the captives?

 

[Konjad]

Shadowheart's quest ending hits hard

 

[Tyranicon]

Codextards still crying BG3 is the biggest CRPG success ever.

Tears on the cuckdex will be mined for years, god bless Larian.

Your constant Larian/Swen worshipping shitposting has gotten old a long time ago, dude.

To be honest, I even like his retarded rp. This thread would be pretty boring without his attempts to piss off a grumpy morons.

My headcannon is that is real Swen because it makes me chuckle every time I think about it.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

There's tons of posts against companions in the Steam forums. I have to say I kinda agree. Companions are really weak, but then again, I tend to dislike companions in every game I play, but when you find Withers you can get hirelings, so that could solve the issue, probably? It really feels like Shadowheart and Froggy are the only companions who aren't pure shit. I'm mostly going with what Larian probably intended as the canon party of me - Shadow - Gale - Astarion; Froggy gets swapped in or out depending on how hard certain encounters get (ai REALLY loves to kill Gale as soon as possible). Karlach has seen some use too. But other than that, I'm not really impressed, but as I said, I tend to hate companions so this isn't really an issue for me.

I have a 2060, and I know the game reccomends a 2060 Super, but the game itself is giving me Ultra as a suggested config when I hit the detect button, and I'm still getting some framerate issues while going through gfx intense areas, so I hope future patches do something when it comes to this.

Also, controller input doesn't seem to be working properly right now.

 

[AwesomeButton]

More of a moron who hasn't even read his own contract and then wonders that he gets his ass fucked every time.

Isn't that a typical thing to happen to low-education low-qualifications people.

Wyll is a walking caricature. I keep wondering and can't settle on whether his authors were idiots, or very smart.

EDIT:

Completely accurate description, too.

That guys seems to be the writer of Wyll. What a surprise.

So, it's idiots then.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Shadowheart's quest ending hits hard

No it fuckin' doesn't, I just did it 5 minutes ago.
I had to fight Viconia.



And turns out to get the dramatic option of sparing her you need to use LETHAL DAMAGE. I think. You don't get it you use non-lethal damage, the game treats her as dead.
This non-lethal system is garbage, it's half-implemented.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

tbh I thought the whole Blade of Frontiers shtick was kinda like him bluffing all the time, but it turns out the guy is serious and he is some kind of local legend. He really feels like a Yamcha though.

 

[AwesomeButton]

"Phaedre"? "Chaulssin"?

 

[Strange Fellow]

My group has now explored all of the underdark and finally returned to the surface. I have the sneaking suspicion that we've done things out of order. Immediately upon returning to the main map we killed the hag in one turn, then went to the goblin camp, made everyone hostile and faffed about for a while using goblins as improvised weapons against other goblins and stuff like that, because they couldn't do shit to us and we had to entertain ourselves somehow. Oops.

There's no such thing as 'do things out of order' in a proper RPG.

That's a very nice sentiment but it doesn't apply to any CRPG ever made.

 

[Sunri]

Shadowheart's quest ending hits hard

No it fuckin' doesn't, I just did it 5 minutes ago.
I had to fight Viconia.



And turns out to get the dramatic option of sparing her you need to use LETHAL DAMAGE. I think. You don't get it you use non-lethal damage, the game treats her as dead.
This non-lethal system is garbage, it's half-implemented.

I just beaten her.normally and told her to fuck.off

 

[Konjad]

Shadowheart's quest ending hits hard

No it fuckin' doesn't, I just did it 5 minutes ago.
I had to fight Viconia.



And turns out to get the dramatic option of sparing her you need to use LETHAL DAMAGE. I think. You don't get it you use non-lethal damage, the game treats her as dead.
This non-lethal system is garbage, it's half-implemented.

Oh yeah, I used lethal damage and got the dialogue. In which I killed her, r00fles!

But I meant Shadowheart

Spoiler

getting her memories back, killing her parents as Shar commanded, then having memories wiped again

 

[d1r]

Man, doing the act 2 final boss fight as a lvl 7-8 team on tactician is absolutely rough. Nevertheless, it all has been doable so far. No powergaming, just roleplaying.

 

[Maxie]

"Phaedre"? "Chaulssin"?

have you ever read war of the spider queen

 

[hivemind]

tbh I thought the whole Blade of Frontiers shtick was kinda like him bluffing all the time, but it turns out the guy is serious and he is some kind of local legend. He really feels like a Yamcha though.

it's kinda what he was in the ea

just a full on fraud liar

it was imo much more amusing than like the most boring good guy imaginable

i fed him full of tadpoles and

Spoiler

convinced him to sell his soul to mizora

 

[AwesomeButton]

Here:

Oh! So it's actually only running 4 instances in the beginning! Nice, thanks! Although, I do wonder if I have to repeat these steps every time I run the game.

No, if you start a multiplayer savegame with no one else around to join, you just inherit all characters afaik.

 

[AwesomeButton]

That's buttsex bait right? Not quest related?

I believe this will take you on the gay cruise scene you saw in the trailer so I declined.

Actually not. In my case, the guy all he did was sit on his ass and talk. Strangely, he didn't even try to fuck my character.

Make sure not to sound so disappointed.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

One thing that I find shocking is how Larian has managed to drum into the public the idea that BG3 has created and/or reinvented role-playing games.

At the minimum, Baldur's Gate 3 has led audiences to reject the obsolete, outdated Bioware-style Real-Time-with-Pause combat system, which was only implemented due to technological limitations, and instead to embrace an innovative, cutting-edge turn-based combat system, which will become the new standard in RPGs.

I hope Larian releases good mod tools and some autists recreate BG1&2.

Larian should contract another company to recreate BG1&2 using the game engine of the original Baldur's Gate 3.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Honeymoon period over for AwesomeButton?

I was always balanced. You were always trying too hard to be a cool codexboy.

So, what is the codex consensus? Is this game good? It's pure decline? Kingcomrade?

Best cRPG in a long time

BG3 is an unheard-of case of a Codex-worthy mainstream RPG :

* Reactivity to class/race -- unparalleled
* Evil path / multiple outcomes to quests -- at least viable, if not on par with the good path, the verdict is pending
* "Roll with failed checks" gameplay - provided! Show me another RPG that does that, in the last 20 years.
* Killable NPCs, including plot-important ones -- check.
The above sum up as "Choice & Consequence", a term coined here afaik. And then you also have:
* Combat -- D&D mechanics and monsters! Yes, 5e, but that's mandated by WotC :trollface: The worst I've heard so far about the combat is that Tactician needs balancing, which is achievable with mods.
* Exploration -- check.
Bonus:
* Can play as a tranny!

So, "is this game good"? "Is it pure decline?"

Haters put their eggs in the hate basket during the Early Access, and now are clutching at straws to shittalk the game - "muh culture wars", "watch out, gays!", "it's not KOTC2 combat", "the writing is not Tolstoyevski-grade", boo-hoo. BG3 is actually more inclined than much of the Codex top 20. It's just a lot of butthurt and fear of loss of internet cred.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Shadowheart's quest ending hits hard

No it fuckin' doesn't, I just did it 5 minutes ago.
I had to fight Viconia.



And turns out to get the dramatic option of sparing her you need to use LETHAL DAMAGE. I think. You don't get it you use non-lethal damage, the game treats her as dead.
This non-lethal system is garbage, it's half-implemented.

I just beaten her.normally and told her to fuck.off

Yes. I've just said that.
Reading comprehension.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Story-wise, it makes sense.

Spoiler

This is the main headquarters that contains the source of tadpoles that they use to infect prisoners.
Where else would they like to bring all the captives?

I figured as much, but the rationalization is coming after the fact in this case. It's like they first tied all the quests to the location, then came up with the reason for it.
I mean, what, it couldn't have been possible for some of the missing persons to have been abducted by a completely unrelated party? Sure it could have.
The stakes felt raised too abruptly for my taste at least. "This is the big bad, responsible for all the bad in this land, and by the way for your problem as well, Adenvturer. So while you're solving your main quest, would you be so kind as to also help this laundry list of minor characters. It would be so convenient. They should be somewhere in his dungeons."

And one more gripe I have with companion NPCs, which I didn't mention earlier.

It gets a bit claustrophobic at camp with so many great egos per square foot/meter. But not just the egos, the personal story tropes of Laezel and Shadowheart currently seem to practically mirror each other. I really hope there is variance according to player choice for them, but for the moment, they are dangerously similar.

Overall, I remember Tim Cain once saying that Arcanum was the game they wanted to put everything in that they could think of, and for now it seems like BG3 is this game for Swen.
Talk about the curse of infinte resources. He got his hands on too much money, bless his heart

EDIT:

I would have preferred the curse to be translated in gameplay terms via some sort of time limit, limit on rests before consequences kick in. A bit Owlcat-style, would have been better. I don't think the implementation of a "spooky radiation" mechanic contributes all that much to the RP experience, and to the feeling of faithfully simulated PnP game.

 

[Zeltak]

Honeymoon period over for AwesomeButton?

I was always balanced. You were always trying too hard to be a cool codexboy.

Lol what the fuck are you even talking about my review of this game is the definition of balanced retard.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Honeymoon period over for AwesomeButton?

I was always balanced. You were always trying too hard to be a cool codexboy.

Lol what the fuck are you even talking about my review of this game is the definition of balanced retard.

You think I read everything by every shitposter who joined here from 4chan three days ago? Give it here.

 

[gurugeorge]

Honeymoon period over for AwesomeButton?

I was always balanced. You were always trying too hard to be a cool codexboy.

Lol what the fuck are you even talking about my review of this game is the definition of balanced retard.

"Balanced retard" lol

 

[Zeltak]

Honeymoon period over for AwesomeButton?

I was always balanced. You were always trying too hard to be a cool codexboy.

Lol what the fuck are you even talking about my review of this game is the definition of balanced retard.

I’m mentally disabled.

No worries, I already know.

 

[Lagole Gon]

I like the fact that Viconia has an unique weapon that just sets her STR to 18. Because that's the kind of item she would need. Quality meta reference.

On the other hand, Minsc after joining you has the standard ranger stats, with 12 STR. Well, that sucks.
You are just forced to respec here.