Divinity Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition

[Thane Solus]

i worked in the "review" industry and i will tell you by now, that most of the reviewers dont even play 10% of the game they review, unless its a payed doritos game or they really liked the game, fits their taste, otherwise its just generic review based on the troll's experience in gaming and so on. So dont expect objective reviews from more than 10% of the gaming sites. The gaming sites industry its a cesspool just like the dev industry.

 

[BGMD]

"I'm a game reviewer goddammit, I don't have time for this shit!"

 

[Zewp]

That's because the screenshots he got are from a pre-alpha build from over a year ago, and he hasn't touched the game at all himself....

I'm talking about the Strategy Informer review, not the CCC one.

 

[Zeriel]

Guys, check out this shit:
http://www.cheatcc.com/pc/rev/divinityoriginalsinreview.html

Bastard, he is using alpha/beta screenshots (edit: it's pre-alpha screenshots from last year..), and the release date is said to have been 20th of june... And the clearly hasn't played more than the first map, if that. Maybe just watched
youtube videos.

You can instantly tell a site isn't legit if the bottom bar has the Buzzfeed-esque "Top 5 X" style articles at the bottom. It's just one of hundreds of crowdsourced baitclick websites that have no actual community or following, and pay cents on the dollar for content, if at all. Lord knows why Metacritic takes them for srs, though.

 

[J_C]

i worked in the "review" industry and i will tell you by now, that most of the reviewers dont even play 10% of the game they review, unless its a payed doritos game or they really liked the game, fits their taste, otherwise its just generic review based on the troll's experience in gaming and so on. So dont expect objective reviews from more than 10% of the gaming sites. The gaming sites industry its a cesspool just like the dev industry.

I worked in it too and I can confirm this.

 

[Brzęczyszczykiewicz]

i worked in the "review" industry and i will tell you by now, that most of the reviewers dont even play 10% of the game they review, unless its a payed doritos game or they really liked the game, fits their taste, otherwise its just generic review based on the troll's experience in gaming and so on. So dont expect objective reviews from more than 10% of the gaming sites. The gaming sites industry its a cesspool just like the dev industry.

I worked in it too and I can confirm this.

We know, Matt.

 

[J_C]

I'm not Ma... ah forget it.

 

[PhantasmaNL]

i worked in the "review" industry and i will tell you by now, that most of the reviewers dont even play 10% of the game they review, unless its a payed doritos game or they really liked the game, fits their taste, otherwise its just generic review based on the troll's experience in gaming and so on. So dont expect objective reviews from more than 10% of the gaming sites. The gaming sites industry its a cesspool just like the dev industry.

I wrote for a PC games magazine once, and we always had a policy of completing the game or when that was not really realistic (wizardy 7 for example) long enough (yea this is pretty subjective, i know) to form a complete picture. What set our mag apart were the in depth reviews written by gamers who all specialized in a certain genre, whereas other magazines opted for 4 pages with preeeteee hi-res pics and about 40 words randomly placed somewhere inbetween. Oh and a fancy scoring system of course.

Unfortunatly that also ment our magazine had reviews *much* later than the competition. So less ad monies for us. Especially since we didnt give major publicers the 10/10 scores they wanted per definition for said ad monies. Today the gaming review bizz is best seen as an extension of the big publishers marketing department.

 

[DDZ]

I also worked for a pc gaming magazine.

 

[J_C]

I also worked for a pc gaming magazine.

Pics of GTFO!

 

[RK47]

I too, worked for a pc gaming magazine, RPGCodex.net

 

[Gord]

I'm not Ma... ah forget it.

Acceptance is the first step!

 

[Black]

I too, worked for a pc gaming magazine, RPGCodex.net

Ah, most prestigious of them all. I tip my glasses to you, good sir.

 

[PowerTorment]

i worked in the "review" industry and i will tell you by now, that most of the reviewers dont even play 10% of the game they review, unless its a payed doritos game or they really liked the game, fits their taste, otherwise its just generic review based on the troll's experience in gaming and so on. So dont expect objective reviews from more than 10% of the gaming sites. The gaming sites industry its a cesspool just like the dev industry.

I worked in it too and I can confirm this.

We know, Matt.

And I work in the game dev industry and I can tell you that we know this and focus most of the effort on the first part of the game. Why bother with the rest since most people (including reviewers) never see it anyway. (Excepted are short story based games)

No wonder many games' last half seems rushed.

 

[Zeriel]

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...me_Larian_Studios_waited_15_years_to_make.php

Some new words from Swen. Basically just recapping, though interesting to hear (and I agree) that he doesn't want to do a physical release ever again.

 

[RK47]

"At the time I answered him by saying ‘you know we’ve been doing this for quite some time, we’ve released so many RPGs, we can deal with this, blah blah blah.’ And it’s true, we have done this several times, and it’s always been miserable! Here too, it was miserable again," says Vincke.

Another example of degenerate business approach.

 

[PowerTorment]

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...me_Larian_Studios_waited_15_years_to_make.php

Some new words from Swen. Basically just recapping, though interesting to hear (and I agree) that he doesn't want to do a physical release ever again.

Hmm, interesting. I wonder how many of the high tier pledgers in Kickstarter did it for the physical stuff.

 

[Minttunator]

Hmm, interesting. I wonder how many of the high tier pledgers in Kickstarter did it for the physical stuff.

I'm guessing a lot of them did. I wasn't exactly a high tier pledger myself, but I probably wouldn't have pledged as much as I did if I wasn't getting a Collector's Edition box out of it.

 

[Nryn]

The dialogue with Archibald the toll Troll had me chuckling:

Spoiler

 

[Zewp]

I killed all the bridge trolls, but not him. I would have felt quite bad killing him in front of his son.

 

[Markman]

Guess I'll have to go back and derp somewhere else till Im a level or two higher. Nothing changes when I destroy the pillars(he still summons and changes enviroment) besides him making a comment and me prolonging the fight and getting fucked in the end.

edit: Got him, on like a 7th try. Well spent 4 hours lul.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Guess I'll have to go back and derp somewhere else till Im a level or two higher. Nothing changes when I destroy the pillars(he still summons and changes enviroment) besides him making a comment and me prolonging the fight and getting fucked in the end.

By destroying pillars you negate his elemantal resistances which will start to damage him.

 

[Turisas]

Hmm, interesting. I wonder how many of the high tier pledgers in Kickstarter did it for the physical stuff.

I'm guessing a lot of them did. I wasn't exactly a high tier pledger myself, but I probably wouldn't have pledged as much as I did if I wasn't getting a Collector's Edition box out of it.

The high-tiers generally aren't very significant in the total pledges as far as percentages are concerned. Obviously they'd take a hit if they went full digital, but I think they'd be alright now that D:OS has generated them so much goodwill and attention.

 

[Perkel]

So i did little counting:

Steam/GoG price is 36,99€
Steam gets 30% + there will be some other shit like taxes so we make it 50%
So 36,99€ - 50% = 18,5€ from each coppy (we don't count discounts, EA, etc.)

Game budget ~ 4.000.000 € (Kickstarter money not counted)

So if we divide that:
4.000.000€ / 18,5€ ~ 220.000 copies

Which means that to brake even Larian needs to sell 220.000 copies
Which means that to create Divinity: Original Sin 2 they need 220.000 + 60.000 | 600.000€ (kckstr money)/18,5€| ~ 250.000 copies sold
If they will sell 1 mln copies for 18,5€ = 18.500.000€ which would fund them more or less 2-3 games same or bigger than Divinity: Original Sin

Now if we consider that original 4,5mln was with development of their own new engine + they have back catalog of games that still give them money + Divinity: Original Sin is success thus giving Divinity 2 OS even bigger sales, we can say that Larian is safe for years to come unless Swen will bankroll all profit and run to Columbia or new volcano will erupt in Belgium.

Now Obsidian needs to have success with PoE and Inxile with W2 so that we will have years upon years of good RPGs add to that Iron Tower studios and few other less noteworthy and we have basically cRPG festival for few next years.

Truly happy times for cRPG gamers.

 

[PhantasmaNL]

So i did little counting:


Now if we consider that original 4,5mln was with development of their own new engine + they have back catalog of games that still give them money + Divinity: Original Sin is success thus giving Divinity 2 OS even bigger sales, we can say that Larian is safe for years to come unless

Swen will bankroll all profit and run to Columbia buys his own Island or new volcano will erupt in Belgium.

stranger things have happened

but yeah i really hope they make a lot of money and create some more excellent RPGs

i read somewhere that they consider buying an RPG license (maybe vampire tm ?? ) if profits permit