Dragon's Dogma II - "They’re masterworks, all – you can’t go wrong"

[Dadd]

one of those games that look better in screenshots

 

[gabel]

Looks pretty much like Dragon's Dogma, it's the details that have me worried.

 

[Dedicated_Dark]

one of those games that look better in screenshots

One of those games that is waay more fun to play than when you watch a video of it.

PS:

Cue. every fucking crpg in existence.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

https://s1.webmshare.com/PbRqR.webm

 

[gurugeorge]

Itsuno had one fucking job!!! Motherfucker, inventory healing is still in this fucking game. Wtf Itsuno!

Based. Just like all JRPGs.

That makes me feel sorry for the poor monster

 

[mediocrepoet]

Arisen, look, new gameplay.

If you're going to post porn, put it behind NSFW tags.

 

[scytheavatar]

I think most people here don't want to admit it, but the original Dragon's Dogma was a 7.5/10 game with some cool ideas but design issues which go beyond it being "jank". And now in a post Elden Ring world it seems the Dragon's Dogma design has aged even worse. It is for this reason that I am not excited for DD2, it seems to be a game that has fallen into the same trap Bethesda fell into with Starfield. What that was innovative and ahead of its time 10 years ago is probably boring stuff nowadays.

 

[Suicidal]

I think most people here don't want to admit it, but the original Dragon's Dogma was a 7.5/10 game with some cool ideas but design issues which go beyond it being "jank". And now in a post Elden Ring world it seems the Dragon's Dogma design has aged even worse. It is for this reason that I am not excited for DD2, it seems to be a game that has fallen into the same trap Bethesda fell into with Starfield. What that was innovative and ahead of its time 10 years ago is probably boring stuff nowadays.

Dragon's Dogma: a game where you can climb giant monsters, do various wacky physics interactions and have AI party members that learn from your behavior, which can lead to all sorts of unexpected, unscripted encounters in the open world (released in 2012).

Elden Ring: a game where you roll & attack for 100 hours, where giant monsters are fought by standing under them and hitting their feet for 2 minutes and where to get a quest NPC to move to a different location after completing a quest, you have to quit and reload the game (released in 2022).

Which one is more innovative again?

 

[Spike]

I think most people here don't want to admit it, but the original Dragon's Dogma was a 7.5/10 game with some cool ideas but design issues which go beyond it being "jank". And now in a post Elden Ring world it seems the Dragon's Dogma design has aged even worse. It is for this reason that I am not excited for DD2, it seems to be a game that has fallen into the same trap Bethesda fell into with Starfield. What that was innovative and ahead of its time 10 years ago is probably boring stuff nowadays.

No. It's a flawed masterpiece. More like a 9 or a 10. Now wash your mouth out for insulting Itsuno-san and never do so around these parts again.

 

[cruel]

I think most people here don't want to admit it, but the original Dragon's Dogma was a 7.5/10 game with some cool ideas but design issues which go beyond it being "jank". And now in a post Elden Ring world it seems the Dragon's Dogma design has aged even worse. It is for this reason that I am not excited for DD2, it seems to be a game that has fallen into the same trap Bethesda fell into with Starfield. What that was innovative and ahead of its time 10 years ago is probably boring stuff nowadays.

No. It's a flawed masterpiece. More like a 9 or a 10. Now wash your mouth out for insulting Itsuno-san and never do so around these parts again.

Just stop with this nonsense. Flawed masterpiece, 9 or 10? An action-RPG with abysmal enemy variety, almost no difficulty in base game, allowing you to heal while pausing via inventory, MMO-tier quest design, random itemization and empty open world? I know that some of you really like this game, but at least try to be honest here. Climbing monsters doesn't make a game a 9 or a 10 if so many other things are not done properly. Probably the most overrated game on the Codex, along with Kingmaker.

Note: I liked the game and spent 110h playing it, but rating it anything more than 7.5/10 is a very big stretch.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Arisen, look, new gameplay.

Glorious. The environmental interactions look great, also mage Gameplay... Awesome

 

[Spike]

I think most people here don't want to admit it, but the original Dragon's Dogma was a 7.5/10 game with some cool ideas but design issues which go beyond it being "jank". And now in a post Elden Ring world it seems the Dragon's Dogma design has aged even worse. It is for this reason that I am not excited for DD2, it seems to be a game that has fallen into the same trap Bethesda fell into with Starfield. What that was innovative and ahead of its time 10 years ago is probably boring stuff nowadays.

No. It's a flawed masterpiece. More like a 9 or a 10. Now wash your mouth out for insulting Itsuno-san and never do so around these parts again.

Just stop with this nonsense. Flawed masterpiece, 9 or 10? An action-RPG with abysmal enemy variety, almost no difficulty in base game, allowing you to heal while pausing via inventory, MMO-tier quest design, random itemization and empty open world? I know that some of you really like this game, but at least try to be honest here. Climbing monsters doesn't make a game a 9 or a 10 if so many other things are not done properly. Probably the most overrated game on the Codex, along with Kingmaker.

Note: I liked the game and spent 110h playing it, but rating it anything more than 7.5/10 is a very big stretch.

Yes, a 9 or a 10. I stand by this. It captures the feel of adventure more than any other 3D game I know of and the combat is so good. Game at the very least is an 8 and it is unjust to say otherwise. It really is a feat.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

scytheavatar​

cruel​

 

[mediocrepoet]

I think most people here don't want to admit it, but the original Dragon's Dogma was a 7.5/10 game with some cool ideas but design issues which go beyond it being "jank". And now in a post Elden Ring world it seems the Dragon's Dogma design has aged even worse.

Just stop with this nonsense. Flawed masterpiece, 9 or 10? An action-RPG with abysmal enemy variety, almost no difficulty in base game, allowing you to heal while pausing via inventory, MMO-tier quest design, random itemization and empty open world? I know that some of you really like this game, but at least try to be honest here. Climbing monsters doesn't make a game a 9 or a 10 if so many other things are not done properly. Probably the most overrated game on the Codex, along with Kingmaker.

Note: I liked the game and spent 110h playing it, but rating it anything more than 7.5/10 is a very big stretch.

Thank you for your valuable opinions. I'll file them with the rest.

Now kindly step into the recycler so your nutrients may be redistributed to more valuable life forms, such as algae.

 

[Machocruz]

"Post Elden Ring world"...people love their meme think. Did you guys also know what "Adventure of Link is the black sheep of the series!" or "turn based combat was only because of technical limitations!" ? Anyway, no such world exists where open world fantasy design has made a significant stride forward.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Elden Ring was received appropiately for its time and the hype it had at release, but I don't think it will have a bigger impact like any of the souls games had. This is where you realize that the beauty of Souls is that each game lasts 25 hours. And it's perfectly fine to be played in short burts, from boss to boss or from bonfire to bonfire. Dragon's Dogma is the opposite, but the mechanics allow for it. That's the key difference.

 

[Silverfish]

almost no difficulty in base game

I actually found quite a few parts challenging, but my character was a wuss, only leveling as a mage.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

almost no difficulty in base game

I actually found quite a few parts challenging, but my character was a wuss, only leveling as a mage.

playing as a mage you have to rely on your pawns to protect you. Both as a healer or as a bomber.

 

[Spike]

almost no difficulty in base game

I actually found quite a few parts challenging, but my character was a wuss, only leveling as a mage.

The early game is in classic RPG fashion (I remember a certain hill that had a bunch of bandits that proved tough) and then of course like so many others, you just exponentially outpace everything. Gothic 1 and 2 had this effect too, I think most games do. Even FF1 does.

 

[Black]

And now in a post Elden Ring world

Bad games come out all the time, it's not a historic moment.

 

[Abu Antar]

DD was an 8/10 game for me. I had issues with it, but combat was not one of them. Looking at some videos, it feels like the ones playing are bad at the game.

 

[Modron]

it feels like the ones playing are bad at the game.

Well yeah they are probably game journalists.

 

[Zeriel]

I think most people here don't want to admit it, but the original Dragon's Dogma was a 7.5/10 game with some cool ideas but design issues which go beyond it being "jank". And now in a post Elden Ring world it seems the Dragon's Dogma design has aged even worse. It is for this reason that I am not excited for DD2, it seems to be a game that has fallen into the same trap Bethesda fell into with Starfield. What that was innovative and ahead of its time 10 years ago is probably boring stuff nowadays.

The most annoying thing is when someone substitutes their personal bias and opinion as "design issues". It's only an issue to you and people who think like you do. To other people, a game that is "perfectly designed" to your tastes is the one with design issues.

I far, far prefer Dragon's Dogma model of combat balance & item use to Dark Souls hugging the floor with your nuts simulator.

 

[Damned Registrations]

I think most people here don't want to admit it, but the original Dragon's Dogma was a 7.5/10 game with some cool ideas but design issues which go beyond it being "jank". And now in a post Elden Ring world it seems the Dragon's Dogma design has aged even worse. It is for this reason that I am not excited for DD2, it seems to be a game that has fallen into the same trap Bethesda fell into with Starfield. What that was innovative and ahead of its time 10 years ago is probably boring stuff nowadays.

The most annoying thing is when someone substitutes their personal bias and opinion as "design issues". It's only an issue to you and people who think like you do. To other people, a game that is "perfectly designed" to your tastes is the one with design issues.

I far, far prefer Dragon's Dogma model of combat balance & item use to Dark Souls hugging the floor with your nuts simulator.

Nah, the inventory item spam is straight up jank. That shit has no place in any game and it's honestly baffling it still shows up these days. Anyone who doesn't think scarfing 30 melons in the middle of combat is a flaw is batshit crazy.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Anyone who doesn't think scarfing 30 melons in the middle of combat is a flaw is batshit crazy.

Bruh did you just assume their metabolism?