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Rate Baizuo's Gate 3 from 0 to 10, where 0 is the worst game of your live and 10, the best.

Score, one to 10.


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Crichton

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Choices with no consequences.

I don't see how much more you can reasonably expect; there are several cases where I was surprised that the game let me skip out on things that the writers obviously spent a lot of time on and provided alternatives:

1) Since I was playing a harem party, I told Wyll the devil-hunter to fuck off when he appeared in the camp ... and he fucked off, I never saw him again. Since I'd read in threads here that the Duke was his father and their quests were intertwined, I expected him to pop back in in act 3, but he didn't. I rescued his father from SeaLab, had him hanging around in camp; he never mentioned his gay dancing son (probably ashamed). Everything I know about Wyll I learned from this website, all he ever did in my game is stroll into camp, spout some shit and wander off into the wilderness.

2) Some companion quests are actually branched, not 'complete the quest and then push the NPC through the good or evil door'; Shadowheart's quest plays out differently for the two tracks. I didn't use most of the companions, but playing as Gale, I can actually go full retard Glorious Martyrdom Operation and end the game an act early. How many games even give you a shadow of that?

3) Those mushroom merchants were bitching about their lack of stock in act 3 because the game let me accidentally blow up their magic mushroom. That's it, you snooze you lose. Pretty much every other RPG dev would have made the mushroom impossible to destroy, made some big deal out of the choice of who to give the mushroom to and then "hidden" 3 other mushrooms so you could give everyone their fucking mushroom and avoid having to make the choice.

I don't know that it adds up to 170000000000 endings or whatever the yellow press promised, but being able to 1) become a squid, 2) work with the gay squid, 3) have Karlach become a squid or 4) make Orpheus become a squid is also a pretty decent selection of options for resolving the main quest. WotR does have a better selection but compare this to either BG or BG2.
 

Haplo

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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
Plus the consequences really sting power-option wise.

Killed the tieflings/let them be killed? Good job, now you won't have access to a large part of the best items in the game. Also Karlach's quest is unsolvable... not that she'd want to follow you.
You want a drow companion? Better not be a goody two-shoes then.

You're Durge? Better don't need the best Charisma robe.

And lots of similar, maybe less impactfull consequences.
 

Fedora Master

STOP POSTING
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Picking a side and being locked out of an entire path is a consequence.
Being locked out of a quarter of content because one option is blatantly unfinished is not.
 

Abu Antar

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Gameplay is an 8, or maybe even higher.

Everything related to writing is a 6, or maybe even lower.

I've taken a break from the game, but will return soon.
 
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Falls squarely into the 5,5/10 territory, if for no other reason, then for being the same game Larian's been making since at least D: OS, but this time going all in with coomer shit, so reddit will love it, it'll receive all the GOTY awards, and will be forgotten in two years
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Can't say I give a shit.
 

janior

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Falls squarely into the 5,5/10 territory, if for no other reason, then for being the same game Larian's been making since at least D: OS, but this time going all in with coomer shit, so reddit will love it, it'll receive all the GOTY awards, and will be forgotten in two years
meh.png
Can't say I give a shit.
and you didn't play it even for an hour
 

Padzi

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I thoroughly enjoyed act 1, I liked act 2, but I'm really tired playing act 3.

Seriously, I thought that I will be pleased by act 3 the most as I'm very keen on playing around in a city setting... But something feels off.

I rate the 7/10 as act 3 alone lowers the rating
 
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RPG Wokedex Strap Yourselves In
7 out of ten. Starts as a solid 8 and then slowly slides down to 6 as you progress through the game. Still it left me hopeful for further Larian projects. I feel that since Divinity 1 each new Larian game is a slight improvement over the predecessor.
 

Frozen

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0 is too high for that shit

it's made by people with zero taste and one-digit IQ

jersey shore of games
 

Desiderius

Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard
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Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Wrath
Gameplay is an 8, or maybe even higher.

Everything related to writing is a 6, or maybe even lower.

I've taken a break from the game, but will return soon.
I'm not returning until they restore the axed content, or someone else does.
 

Jaesun

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MCA Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 BattleTech
I'm not returning until they restore the axed content, or someone else does.

Cut content is usually done for good reasons (unfinished/buggy/not really well developed/doesn't mesh well with the current game). See the Fallout 2 restoration mod for an example.
 

Baron Tahn

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I found it pretty shit but I don't like Larian much, BG3 didn't change that opinion. Probably would have bumped it higher than a 5 if it had a 6 man party
 

NaturallyCarnivorousSheep

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NwN shit on it
Oh yeah the control single character piece of shit, right! Oh I forgot. Dragon age origins great. Kotor has amazing combat. Alpha protocol stealth masterpiece.

BG3 derangement syndrome hits some people hard.

It's 8/10. It has some issues that bring it down but is overall very good. The biggest problems I have with it is that act 3 is simply unbalanced, you will outlevel the content there really quickly and stay at level 12 for the majority of it, the act itself also does the city section decently when compared to something like Neketaka, but I still hate cities in cRPGs and can't lie. Combat in general is challenging enough until level 10 or so unless you minmax or cheese it. Honor mode could've been harder though, if you're gonna go through these kinds of troubles for "teh hardcore gamer" mode you should test it for literal munchkin runs. It also ends up with a problem a lot of RPGs have where a bunch of mythical beasts you just slash through but a humanoid party will be the real challenge since they have the same tools you do. That being said it utilises the ruleset well and the ruleset itself meshes with what Larian does well. 5E cut awat a lot of bloat but also a lot of CC and it just so happens that the biggest problems of DOS was too much CC and DOS2 - armour system that was meant to prevent CC chaining every encounter. The thing as a whole is more than sum of its parts.
The plot I thought was ok. I don't care about plot in games. Probably the worst parts were the fanservice bits because they took away from what you could've done with the game. For instance instead of Jaheira and Minsc companions they easily could've give us Ketheric and Alfira(as mentioned in a different thread). Then again I don't care about people either, maybe some of you guys really care that you see the fake people from the previous games in here.
The itemisation is meh. If DOS2 suffered from swap gear every level syndrome in here I've ended up using some items for half of the game or more.
There's a bunch of absolutely disgusting woke shit in the thing.
There's quite a bit to explore and even with me being a relative completionist I've found quite a lot of stuff in my 2nd playthrough. Since I'm yet to do the "good" run I probably still have stuff to find.
Act 2 probably gets the best overall location design, the monumental temple of Shar especially makes an impression imo.

Overall despite some issues it's defo a well done game, which makes the derangement syndrome even more retarded. Some people act as if Swen killed their family and then raped their corpses.
 

Cryomancer

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BG3 derangement syndrome hits some people hard.

It's 8/10. It has some issues that bring it down but is overall very good. T

I agree with first statement but disagree with second.

8/10 would be for me is a game like NwN2. This game is not as good as NwN2. Worse ruleset, worse encounters, wokized character creation, woke awful romances, I'm not saying that BG3 is bad. It is certainly not 0/10, 0/10 for me is only Forspoken tier. Trash in every aspect.

This game would be 8/10 for me if I could mod a better ruleset in and the woke nonsense out.
 

Haplo

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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
BG3 is vastly better then NWN2. I'd say you have shit taste, if you think otherwise.

Also the ruleset works very well here IMO.
 

luj1

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Haplo you like all the worst shit like Pillars and Pathfinder. I think you know jack about good rulesets or character building.
 

Cryomancer

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When was the last time you've tried to play this crap?

Last year, played the OC + MotB with spell fixes mod.

BG3 is vastly better then NWN2.

In which aspects? Because nwn2 uses a better ruleset, doesn't have woke insanity, allow me to play even in epic levels, allows me to create and build my own personal fortress, has much more classes and subclasses, modding is much easier and most important. No ASTARION!!!
 

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