Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Phinx]

Barrel Gate III? Can't wait!

 

[Mangoose]

Welcome to oligopoly aka economic oligarchy

but muh holy market is supposed to not let things like this happen! that's what the propaganda box tells everyone!

Well it's not.. if you treat the market as something to maintain competitive health. Unfortunately, we have antitrust laws that we don't enact, so we're effed.

Worse thing is that economy policy framework quite often been due to government policy... from deregulating banks to NAFTA (Carter and onwards). It also happens due to federal court decisions. Corporate personhood have arguable sources in specific lawsuits. And financial crises basically started with Carter's DIDMCA.

That's "worst" because good luck getting socialism from these fucks. I never derided socialism, really, but seeing our politicians "planning" by bailing out the banks instead of giving to the poor... I highly doubt they'd change their behavior.

 

[Mangoose]

Yes yes, it's all about the money. No agenda at all beyond making fat stacks.

Dude.

The people who care about money have one interest - to make more money.

People with agendas have a natural conflict of interest - money versus agenda.

Who do you think will end up on top?

This is like the durrrr politicians have this agenda that agenda... Yeah.. No. The ones who most prioritize winning and holding seats are the ones who will win and hold seats. Agenda, again, only gets in their way. This is why you don't have principled people in power - the ones who wholly prioritize power have a common trait - ruthless ambition. Ends justify the means.

It's 1+1=2 that the people in power want power more than anything else. Consider this: Why even bother competing against a demographic of ruthless ambition... Unless you are a ruthless fuck yourself? Even the "best" of people have to compete with this same demographic.

Note that good people don't cheat. Their opponents are people who always try to cheat. Who do you think wins?

A less TLDR of ^above^ is that you join the criminals and/or you lose your agenda.

 

[Goldschmidt]

If I cared about gameplay (combat) above all, I wouldn't play crpg in the first place

Yeah find the part where I said that buddy. Just because you can put up with absolute shit just so you can enjoy the few things the game does well, doesn't mean the game way you interpret, rate, and consume game content is a good one. Also, PoE is not an RPG, so moot point.

For clarity, I'm talking about Pillars of Eternity, not Path of Exile.

Heresy! Both PoE and PoE are top of the line RPG's!

 

[mediocrepoet]

If I cared about gameplay (combat) above all, I wouldn't play crpg in the first place

Yeah find the part where I said that buddy. Just because you can put up with absolute shit just so you can enjoy the few things the game does well, doesn't mean the game way you interpret, rate, and consume game content is a good one. Also, PoE is not an RPG, so moot point.

For clarity, I'm talking about Pillars of Eternity, not Path of Exile.

Heresy! Both PoE and PoE are top of the line RPG's!

Sometimes I want a more engaging experience, so I fire up PoE, but other times I'm more into just turning my mind off and playing mindlessly, so I fire up PoE.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

But is it THE spectator? That'd be a fun throwaway cameo.

 

[Luka-boy]

Looks like the average Twitch spectator to me. Didn't this game have some kind of Twitch integration planned?

 

[The_Mask]

Heresy! Both PoE and PoE are top of the line RPG's!

Pillars of Exile and Path of Eternity?

 

[NecroLord]

What do you make of the push for extreme (over)representation of groups that were not usually represented so vehemently?

I read in a report some time ago that many people who visit the States have this big misconception that niggers make up 60 or even 70 percent of the population, when in reality they make up 13 or 14 percent of the population. Also trannies and other assorted degenerates.
They are OVERREPRESENTED in the media and culture. That's the truth, not some conspiracy theory or some shit.

 

[Swen]

You will play my game and you will be happy.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

You will play my game

Still no Duergar, still no play. Simple as))

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

You will play my game and you will be happy.

Are you sure? I don't think I have ever been so disinterested in a CRPG in my entire life. Even Fallout 4 looks more interesting.

 

[whydoibother]

You will play my game

Still no Duergar, still no play. Simple as))

There's a dark dwarf camp at the end of act 1, in the early access. So it would be trivial to mod them in, though they wouldn't have special dialogue interactions.

 

[Larianshill]

Duergar will obviously be in the full game, which releases just in a few months.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

which releases just in a few months

Yeah, memes aside, I do intend to check the game out once it gets a full release. If I expect to have some issues with it (narrative quality notwithstanding since I don't expect quality from Larian in that department), I mostly doubt that I'll enjoy the extra verticality of its map designs which might be cool for battles, but it makes it a total bitch to navigate if you're a completionist and want to check out every nook and cranny. Forget to rotate your camera at all times and you might just overlook some location.

 

[Tyranicon]

which releases just in a few months

Yeah, memes aside, I do intend to check the game out once it gets a full release. If I expect to have some issues with it (narrative quality notwithstanding since I don't expect quality from Larian in that department), I mostly doubt that I'll enjoy the extra verticality of its map designs which might be cool for battles, but it makes it a total bitch to navigate if you're a completionist and want to check out every nook and cranny. Forget to rotate your camera at all times and you might just overlook some location.

I really tried my best to enjoy DOS2, but it was just so hammy and the weird combat mechanics ground me down.

At least with 5e I'm expecting something I'm familiar with and I can probably just fast-forward through all the dialogue.

If there's good combat, it'll be worth the price for me.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

I don't think the combat is bad. Solasta is an example of an rpg that really took some care on its combat, and while I don't think BG3's is quite there yet, I do think it's still enjoyable. Most of the problems I had with encounters in bg3 had to do with buggy early access game shit, more than anything else.

 

[Cryomancer]

Yep. What I din't liked in DOS2 is :

• Armor mechanics. You can't make a "dc caster" similar class there. Every one needs to be DPS
• Diablo 3 style itemization
• You get almost all spells early on. Compared it to Kingmaker, where you at end of ch 1 gets tier 3 spells, at end of ch 2, tier 4/5 and so on. Or Gothic 2, tier based spell progression.
• The numbers are too inflated
• Animations are too slow and enemies/your party takes too long to die.
• Rotation based combat, having cooldowns is not that a big problem, as UndeRail has it and avoids rotation based combat but in DoS2, I was using the same sequence of skills in multiple encounters.

With this being 5E :

• DC casters will be viable.
• No ludicrous large numbers, except hp
• Better spell progression, getting higher tier spells will be impactful
• With the swarm AI, I hope that the wait time will be lower
• Without cooldowns, I hope that will be no rotation based combat.

Of course, if they implement poorly the resting mechanic, you will be using the same spells and abilities every single encounter. All daily abilities will become per short rest. And I would prefer 2E or 3E over 5E.

But considering how the game is in EA and already has lots of mods, is a matter of time till someone mods 3E spells into this game. Because one problem that I had with spells in Solasta is that when you are playing as a shock arcanist, having 8d6 damage at lv 3 is amazing. But at lv 12, your damage is negligible. Seems like for each point of damage that yuo get, enemies get 10x more in hp. But that is not a big problem as banishment and similar DC based spells seems much better in 5E at higher levels than in AD&D 2e due the enemies having low saves. Some enemies in AD&D at high levels had like 60%+ MR and saves in negatives(meaning that without a penalty for their saves, even rolling 1, they would't fail)

 

[Modron]

Of course, if they implement poorly the resting mechanic, you will be using the same spells and abilities every single encounter.

Sounds faithful to the first 2 installments. All IE games should've had an undisclosed hard time limit to troll autists.

 

[Sunri]

lol i played this game for almost 100 hours already

 

[NJClaw]

What the fuck is a zl how do you use a currency that's even more fake than euro?

 

[Blutwurstritter]

What the fuck is a zl how do you use a currency that's even more fake than euro?

Its a Zloty. I have heard that you needed it to pay Polish prostitutes 10 years ago and I also heard that most of them also accept Euros nowadays when you are close to the German border.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

What the fuck is a zl how do you use a currency that's even more fake than euro?

It's a zetalitre. You pay these people in vodka.

 

[Sunri]

It is a currency of real kangs

 

[Reinhardt]

It is a currency of real kangs

you mean german and russian? when was last time potato had potato kang?