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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

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At least have to thank CD Projekt for the amount of E-thots that will be uploading erotic and porno content on the internet related to cyberpunk aesthetics in the upcoming months



god damn i just want to bury my face between those titties

i don't know rick, they look fake.
 
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The worst thing about the fucking game are the markers on the map that indicate where you find quests.
Makes the whole open world aspect obsolete.
They're a necessary evil for this sort of open world format. Otherwise most people wouldn't stumble upon them given that there aren't any incentives to aimlessly explore the whole map.
Then that kind of open world format is just flawed as its an open world that prevents exploration.

Yea "Open World" design needs a complete overhaul, minimaps, floating quest markers etc are all antithetical to the entire point of open world. Immersing you in the world and the experience. When you are fixated on a tiny square in the corner of the screen or following a flashing blip around like a horse with blinkers whats the point? These devs need to go back to game design school and look at how you use environment, lighting, audio etc to create organic prompts in the world space to lead the player to objectives and points of interest. You know actual exploration...

Funny how we are in the peak of open world game design and graphics fidelity, yet its all completely sabotaged by the casual/normie follow the carrot bullshit. Design a game from the ground up without any of that extraneous hand holding stuff and we could see a good open world game. But I guess that would also require a shit ton of hard work from devs.

I mean literally Zelda, breath of the wild.
 
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Breath of the Wild is basically a perfect blueprint for how you should do an open world game, even if it isn't a perfect game itself. Set the goal on the map, and then everything you do is in preparation for said goal. Most open world games are just "here's a big list of shit to do, wee". But I get it, I only ever played Far Cry 5, but there was something...eh...comfy? Comfy about flying a helicopter around montana. It was aight.
 

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They are working on an Anime Series Cyberpunk 2077 for Netflix. Akira Yamaokoa will be doing the music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7dKVCw7bkE

Cyberpunk film in the works even. That one is a long shot who would get to film it? Created by Keanu Reeves.

Prepare for Cyberpunk 2077 to be all over the place.

https://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/3005-392/Cyberpunk-2077-Trauma-Team-1

Huge Brand huge expansion into everything. There is tons of licenses for merchandise, fashion, and many other things.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Cyberpunk Dildo is sold and becomes the biggest seller. Think Hello Kitty's sucess.

Actually you could just sell anything with Cyberpunk 2077 on it. Prepare for CDProject Red's Stock in the coming years to go insane.
 

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They are working on an Anime Series Cyberpunk 2077 for Netflix. Akira Yamaokoa will be doing the music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7dKVCw7bkE

Cyberpunk film in the works even. That one is a long shot who would get to film it? Created by Keanu Reeves.

Prepare for Cyberpunk 2077 to be all over the place.

https://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/3005-392/Cyberpunk-2077-Trauma-Team-1

Huge Brand huge expansion into everything. There is tons of licenses for merchandise, fashion, and many other things.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Cyberpunk Dildo is sold and becomes the biggest seller. Think Hello Kitty's sucess.

Actually you could just sell anything with Cyberpunk 2077 on it. Prepare for CDProject Red's Stock in the coming years to go insane.
sex sells
 

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Breath of the Wild is basically a perfect blueprint for how you should do an open world game, even if it isn't a perfect game itself. Set the goal on the map, and then everything you do is in preparation for said goal. Most open world games are just "here's a big list of shit to do, wee". But I get it, I only ever played Far Cry 5, but there was something...eh...comfy? Comfy about flying a helicopter around montana. It was aight.

Thats the problem, there is something very relaxing and comfy about the current design philosophy of AAA open world games. Its a literal hamster wheel design, you never have to be afraid of getting lost or possibly turning your brain on, just kick back and follow the dotted line and watch numbers go up.

Oh and what is a 'Breath of the Wild'? I dont do console trash. :shittydog:
 
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Breath of the Wild is basically a perfect blueprint for how you should do an open world game, even if it isn't a perfect game itself. Set the goal on the map, and then everything you do is in preparation for said goal. Most open world games are just "here's a big list of shit to do, wee". But I get it, I only ever played Far Cry 5, but there was something...eh...comfy? Comfy about flying a helicopter around montana. It was aight.

Thats the problem, there is something very relaxing and comfy about the current design philosophy of AAA open world games. Its a literal hamster wheel design, you never have to be afraid of getting lost or possibly turning your brain on, just kick back and follow the dotted line and watch numbers go up.

Oh and what is a 'Breath of the Wild'? I dont do console trash. :shittydog:

The latest Zelda game. You wake up in a cave, you're told Ganon has Zelda trapped in a big castle in the center, and you can go there any time. Here's a big fucking map of shit to do, weapons to find, etc. It's a good start.
 

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Yes, but Deus Ex was a good game. And it didn't present you with 3 literal buttons to press, one for each ending.

Instead it presented you with:

  • Helios Ending: Press a button so you can press the big red button and then walk into Helios' chamber
  • Tong Ending: Press a sequence of buttons that cause the facility to self destruct
  • Illuminati Ending: Press a sequence of buttons to turn off Bob Page's fail safe and then press the big red button to kill him
Deus Ex as good of a game as it was it is undeniable that they rushed the ending. The main difference between Deus Ex 1's ending and Human Revolutions is that it at least spaced the buttons out so you had to do something to get a different ending but it still amounts to pick a button and press it. Area 51 is easily the weakest part of Deus Ex.
 

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The latest Zelda game. You wake up in a cave, you're told Ganon has Zelda trapped in a big castle in the center, and you can go there any time. Here's a big fucking map of shit to do, weapons to find, etc. It's a good start.

Yep. Also, like Morrowind, you can go to the center of the map and beat the game whenever you can handle it, basically. Morrowind also had exploration that was very rewarding due to hand-placed loot, unique locations and random quest givers being all over the place. Open world games shine when you have real freedom and are rewarded for taking advantage of it. Unfortunately most modern open world games ruin all this with randomized loot and checklist quest design that just has you following markers. I didn't expect much different with Cyberpunk though, considering Witcher 3 was the epitome of that kind of design. At least with Cyberpunk the combat is stealthy shooting, which I enjoy way more than Witcher 3's whacky-whacky sword fighting.
 

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Food seems to be plentiful in this cyberpunk dystopia. :M
 

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I just played through the Ballad of Buck Reaves quest.

If I had a twitter I would ask the CDPR account this: "Would Johnny Silverhand have wanted for people to follow a dotted line on a minimap to reach an objective?"
 

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I just played through the Ballad of Buck Reaves quest.

If I had a twitter I would ask the CDPR account this: "Would Johnny Silverhand have wanted for people to follow a dotted line on a minimap to reach an objective?"
Yeah, it sucks big time. Most of the time I feel like a hen.
Are there any mods or settings to disable this?
 

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At least that Buck Reaves was a fun quest.

And that old guy in his 70s or whatever claiming that "only Samurai are real music, everyone else that came after Silverhand is a phony" etc was particularly great, not only because of Johnny's views on the whole situation, but also because it can easily be applied to the older heavy metal audiences of today, that still claim "everything that came out post-1989 is shit".
 

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I just played through the Ballad of Buck Reaves quest.

If I had a twitter I would ask the CDPR account this: "Would Johnny Silverhand have wanted for people to follow a dotted line on a minimap to reach an objective?"
Yeah, it sucks big time. Most of the time I feel like a hen.
Are there any mods or settings to disable this?

Turn off the minimap in options. Its a BIG improvement to gameplay.
 

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I just played through the Ballad of Buck Reaves quest.

If I had a twitter I would ask the CDPR account this: "Would Johnny Silverhand have wanted for people to follow a dotted line on a minimap to reach an objective?"
Yeah, it sucks big time. Most of the time I feel like a hen.
Are there any mods or settings to disable this?

Turn off the minimap in options. Its a BIG improvement to gameplay.

I'm laughing at you guys bitching about a minimap with objectives and dotted lines in a game that's supposed to be a cyberpunk simulation ;) What are you, a schlub with a pencil and an old envelope?

Simulation is gameplay, to an extent, so in a game like this POIs and breadcrumb trails make sense. They don't make sense in a fantasy game unless you go to a shop and buy a map, and even then the map should be vague and not too pinned down (like the quest maps in Thief). (Why don't they sell fucking maps in fantasy games? Never understood that.)

I agree that finding things by environmental cues is the best kind of open world gameplay though. But I don't think we don't have enough of that because devs are lazy per se (as someone said earlier); it's because either shareholders are greedy, management is crap, or both, and devs seem to be always up against the wall trying to get the basic game done. If management were good, things would be done on time, and devs would have the luxury of sticking tons of extra fun in the game.

*sigh*
 
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I just played through the Ballad of Buck Reaves quest.

If I had a twitter I would ask the CDPR account this: "Would Johnny Silverhand have wanted for people to follow a dotted line on a minimap to reach an objective?"
Yeah, it sucks big time. Most of the time I feel like a hen.
Are there any mods or settings to disable this?
You can turn it off right away, but the problem is that you might find you need it at times, simply because the game expects you to have it on. One of the best mods for Witcher 3 was the one that only showed you the minimap while witcher senses were on. I'm waiting for someone to port it to Witcher with Guns.
 

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I'm laughing at you guys bitching about a minimap with objectives and dotted lines in a game that's supposed to be a cyberpunk simulation ;) What are you, a schlub with a pencil and an old envelope?
You don't play RPGs with a pencil behind one ear?
 

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Where are these people finding all these dildos? Right outside the apartment? Am I going crazy? I've seen a handful so far, in places that make sense to me - private booths at BD bars, the red light district.

Is there a bug some people are getting that turns random items into dildos or something.

I've written dildo so many times I'm turning into Fenix

It's a natural continuation of today's normalization of marital implements on sale. You see them on tv, in catalogs and webstores.

Their hate is not about the game itself, but rather against CD Projekt for not bending the knee in terms of SJW politics. These journos and NPCs do find things like the game's sexualiced art and inclusion of trannies as an issue because isn't made the way they wanted. The last time I entered twitter there was people complaining and circlejerking themselves around one poster inside the game where there's a guy with a pistol on his mouth suggesting suicide. They were worried because those things aren't safe, because of course a product aimed for adults must be educational 100% of the time.







Don't get fooled. Only a few do actually care about how is the game as a game. The rest are just clowns using it as a throwing weapon for their shitty takes.


The games industry gets targeted for two reasons:

  1. The online activists are reclusive nerds, believe it or not, with the hobbies of reclusive nerds. So taking an interest in games beyond their entertainment value is a given, the games are their main contact with the outside world after all.
  2. Video games are a major part of male culture, and especially that of young males, so it is imperative that games are made "educational" so that this important demographic can be reached and reprogrammed.


So they're still bullshitting us, even after release.

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Food seems to be plentiful in this cyberpunk dystopia. :M

Just don't ask what it's made of.
 
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And program then we shall! With Alpha Male! Male Leads, Male is the Pillar, Male makes the wife happy!

Remember those three rules.
 

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